@deeplydisturbed it is true I didn't give any direct answer. I assumed that with all likelihood you already know the answer.

There is no reliable way to say are the people that claim to be so goooood [so called grifters] aren't just pile of shit-talkers.

In your list you have missed

• market manipulation with huge pile of money - prominently didn't work in case of GameStop

• providing some information that is false, the opposite from the insider

The main "fake news" about free insulin involves a viral 2022 fake tweet from an impersonator of pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly, falsely announcing insulin was free, causing stock drops and confusion;

One I use is learning the stock. I have chosen speculation stock because you need some sharp drops and rises on company that is legit.

There was this dude that APPARENTLY have leant to use QQQ stock and made his fortine on it.

One of the strategies would be to have hacker insider and know when they.him attack several platforms - real important accounts- with fake news to load the shares right after the drop.

@deeplydisturbed

which s&p stock rose the most from the Nov 2019

-Nvidia (NVDA): Rose approximately 15.8x (a ~1,480% increase). In November 2019, Nvidia's split-adjusted price was roughly $12.10. By January 2026, the stock reached approximately $191.10.

-Tesla (TSLA): Rose approximately 15.4x (a ~1,440% increase). Tesla traded at a split-adjusted price of about $28.00 in November 2019 and stands at roughly $432.96 in early 2026. While Tesla led the index in 2020 with a record 743% gain, Nvidia’s consistent growth since 2023 has allowed it to narrow and eventually overtake Tesla's total multiple gain.

-Super Micro Computer (SMCI): While it only joined the S&P 500 in March 2024, its growth since 2019 has been even more extreme, rising over 1,400% in the five years leading into late 2025.

Was it luck, analysis or plenty of automated microtransactions and taking suckers for a ride. I have one speculation stock. It has wild rides. If I would trade it more carefully I would get out of it 500% in the last 2 y easily

@Durek_The_Bald

...the vast majority of men populating red pill space, or creating content, are not red pill.

Perhaps we’re getting into the semantic weeds here, but this statement of yours is nonsensical. It’s like saying “that dude sitting in Church is not the Church.”

Being red pilled is being more informed than you were before. And that journey can take a long time. I tend to avoid shitting on men for being early in their journey, but I don’t tolerate anyone Gatekeeping no matter who does it.

YOU don’t get to evaluate or assess how another man processes his journey.

Now if you had said “The men who _____ annoy me because it does not adhere to Rule #3 in Joe Schmoe’s Red pIll bible” then I would take it differently.

Grifters are entering mens’ spaces like crazy lately, and way too many are women. They are slowly chipping pieces of TRP content away and claiming it as their own by redefining. It is a classic grifter thing. I have misgivings about a few content creators - Rollo, Paul Elam, and Ryan Stone are a few. They seem to want to claim ownership of parts (or all) of "the red pill.”

then the state of a man's red pill journey can only be judged from where he's actually at in real, lived terms.

No. Some men take time to process. You are justifiably annoyed at some men whining. So am I. But that has no bearing on where a man is, and how he processes the information. If you did some sort of methodologically sound study on a few guys, tracking their states of mind over time, then yes - you can make such claims.

Otherwise you are saying “I am judging these men because they are not as RP-cool as me"

Just, no.

If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment…. he hasn't demonstrated that is has actionable value

You have heard of Red Pill Rage. WTF dude. We have all been here before. And that may take a year or two.

YOU are not the arbiter of what or what is not red pill, THE red pill, a red pilled man, or a red pill journey.