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@Farang131 ah, I'd forgotten that @SwarmShawarma, aka the Euroweenie Of A Thousand Usernames, had said what the deal was with the link going right to my comment up higher in this thread
If you follow what he said, it'll take you to my comment, and my comment has the timestamp
@MentORPHEUS Good analogy. the academic discipline of psychology is like studying design or engineering -you want to know how it works. Psychologists who go on to deal with ill people are like mechanics -they try to fix it.
Most good drivers have some basic idea of how a car works, though not nearly as good as the professionals. However being an engineer or mechanic doesn't make you much better at dealing with the road than an ordinary guy. But you will be less clueless when you break down.
@MentORPHEUS You would be astounded by how the air force teaches their pilots....
@Vermillion-Rx studying psychology and neurology alone, is like learning to drive a car by reading design books and repair manuals only. You learn nothing about practical rules of the road, navigation, and competitive techniques to engage rush hour or win races. Maslow brought me a lot of insight, but adding Machiavelli would have given young me practical tactics and ideas.
True, though gate control is easily applicable to injury compared to doing nothing at all
@Farang131 you're missing the point
The point is to be aware of when people are trying to manipulate you
If a woman appeals to your vanity, say by asking "can a big strong man like you do __ for me?" you need to ask yourself what's in it for you.
If trad cons and gynocentric preachers try to appeal to your sense of duty to get you to Man Up™! and marry a "reformed" slut and be a stepdaddy, you need to ask yourself what's in it for you.
And sometimes you can just run with it, like when your woman gives you a BJ and then asks you to take her to some store you hate. "I got a BJ, so I'll do this for her".
This isn't about fitting in with how most people use a word; it's about recognizing the world as it actually operates so that you can look out for your own interests.
Read More@Farang131 almost all of human communication is manipulation
A baby crying is manipulation.
A valid, sound, deductive argument is manipulation.
Appealing to a sense of duty is manipulation.
Offering money in exchange for a service is manipulation.
Anytime you or anyone else tries to get someone else to change course, take actions, cease an action, etc etc etc it's manipulation.
Manipulation isn't inherently evil or good. It just is.
And it behooves one to be aware of it.
@Typo-MAGAshiv No problem. What timestamp in the video is the "Red Pill victim mentality" I'd like to see that bit.
@Typo-MAGAshiv I agree men need to ask "what's in it for me" but also risk vs benefit. IF I get married what's the risk vs benefit. Men don't do that with love / relationships because they watch too many Disney films and think love is some mysterious force that cannot or should not be analysed this way meanwhile women are secretly analysing the hell out of their options.

