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@lurkerhasarisen I have a strong idea what article you're talking about, and I actually dislike it immensely.
"Alpha" and "beta" were bad enough, but are at least useful shorthand when used in the manner Athol Kay did (alpha = arousal, beta = comfort, and too much of either is bad).
The last thing the manosphere needs is even more of this lame Greek letter garbage, especially when it's reminiscent of the Meyers-Briggs archetypes.
I'll never forgive that article for coining the term "sigma male", as every dude I've seen claim to be one so far has been a total dork.
@FAWK that whole thing is retarded af.
"Alpha" and "beta" were bad enough, and are really only useful as describing traits rather than states of being (alpha being arousal, and beta being comfort).
All that other gay-ass shit is reminiscent of Meyer's-Briggs' personality types.
Almost entirely garbage.
I'm not particularly funny (only in a contextual sort of way),
Good news: that's the best kind of funny.
Develop that a bit. A great place is the WAATGM forum (<----link). Check out the archives as well as the current discussions, and be sure to read the rules on the sidebar before joining the discussions in the comments.
stereotypical ISFJ
I used to buy into that Meyers-Briggs crap when I was younger. It has its uses, but it's not that great. (I wavered between INTJ and ISTJ in case you're curious).
I would advise working on yourself vis-a-vie the F vs T. Being "feeling" instead of "thinking" is very effeminate, and heterosexual women aren't attracted to feminine traits. That, and fuck your feelings.
@goodmansaysfuckyou there's a bit of a difference
Despite all its problems (and there are many), Meyers-Briggs has its uses.
Astrology is just total bullshit.
@Typo-MAGAshiv @elizabethscoffin @goodmansaysfuckyou @redpillschool
MBTI truly does have a certain amount of utility as long as you understand what it reveals and what it doesn't reveal about you. Far too many people look at their MBTI category the same way New Age stoners look at their zodiacal sign, though.
At one point on my life I had to get certified to administer the Myers-Briggs assessment. The funny thing is that we had charts for how people "score," and in each dichotomy the difference between men and women was trivial.
Except for T/F (thinking versus feeling).
It will not surprise anyone here to know that women were FAR more likely to assess as "feelers" than "thinkers" when it came to their preferred method of decision-making... it wasn't even close. Obviously that meant that the MBTI was irredeemably sexist - insert eye-roll here - so the questions and definitions were changed to "fix" it. They kept the T/F dichotomy, but the questions were tweaked to gauge whether you tended to make decisions based on the immediate facts or in the context of underlying principles. I would argue that those are not exclusive at all, but being rationally consistent wasn't the point. The point was to hide the fact that men and women tend to make decisions on different criteria, with men asking, "Does this work?" and women asking, "Is there consensus?". Once they did added enough of those questions, the male-female difference disappeared.
inb4 Typo says, Rational consistency is a tool of the patriarchy.
Read MoreIt really does have some utility.
Huh.
I'd have expected you to say "that's what we've been saying!" in response to his calling it "spergy nonsense".
I dug up that Vox Day post that originated the "sigma/gamma/delta" bullshit yesterday. A few notes:
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it was far older than I had expected (2011 if memory serves). I wonder why this "hurr durr I'm a sigma male" dorkfest has only really kicked off in the last 2 or 3 years.
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like you and I had discussed many times, it tries way too hard to pigeonhole people. Meyers-Briggs is less awful.
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to Vox Day's credit, he did predict a lot of losers would latch on to the "outsider" part of the sigma label as a lame attempt to sound cool.
- the origin was just as retarded as all the subsequent yammer.
Again, I really wish these communities could have just not used any Greek letter bullshit, and just stuck with attraction/arousal and comfort.
Read More@dingleberry299 no. That Vox Day article is a crock of bullshit, even more useless than Meyers-Briggs.
Stop putting stock into gay myers briggs crap. You might as well be living life according to your horoscope.
It's nowhere near that bad. Meyers-Briggs does offer some insights.
One of the big downsides, at least back when I was reading up on it around 1998-2000, was that all the descriptions were incredibly flattering with little to no downsides. That's helpful in trying to figure out a major and/or career path, but not much else.
