Weapons' Cube Was Created For Users on this Network to Share Information about Weapons.
Typo-MAGAshiv Embrace Masculinity
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
while the cops are the last responders.
It varies. When my wife was a cop, she'd occasionally beat the firefighters and paramedics to scenes. A lot depends on who is closer.
And of course, because life's like that, the scenes where she beat them were ones where there was a fire and/or injured people, and the scenes when the cops were beaten there were when there was violence in progress.
[Late insertion - I originally missed where you said "The people on the scene are the first responders", but I'm not deleting all the stuff I said]
[the rest]
I'm with you, that you and I should be allowed to have better firearms as well. Let the cops and law-abiding citizens have them.
If I'm coming across as having a low opinion of civilian cops, it's because I do. I've known a few good ones, but I've known far too many idiots, bullies, and scumbags to think highly of them as a group.
They're people too, and all people suck.
Read MoreLone_Ranger
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
Why TF do civilian cops need military weapons?
Because they aren't able to get erections. So they grow moustaches, get fat and hang around talking about 'firepower'.
Lone_Ranger
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
@lurkerhasarisen but............having more 'firepower' makes up for having a tiny pee-pee, doesn't it?
lurkerhasarisen
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
The number of American cops who have been killed or wounded by machine gun fire is approximately zero. Even if that were not the case, it's unclear to me why giving them machine guns would help. Cops need aimed fire, not fulll-auto covering fire.
The rifle I carried in Afghanistan didn't even have full-auto capability (it could either fire single shots or three-round bursts).
If those guys need weapons of war for the one-in-ten-million situation where having one would produce a better outcome than having a rifle they can aim... there are a whole lot of things they could buy that would be a lot more useful a lot more often (de-escalation training, for starters).
carnold03 Embrace Masculinity
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
Why TF do civilian cops need military weapons? I hate that the phrase "military and law enforcement" is treated as normal... two similar aspects of the same entity. I'm not convinced that civilian cops should have instant access to lethal weapons when there are so many non-lethal ways to handle situations available to them. If there's a legitimate law enforcement use for a fully automatic weapon, I have never heard of it.
Fear. Fear of civilian retaliation against the country's Satanic elite is what prompted the creation of civilian police agencies in the 1800's across the Anglo-sphere. Fear of the non-white boogeymen is why civilian governments have been able to so easily push forward firearms regulations and firearms ownership tracking laws upon the populace. Fear is how you've been ruled, manipulated, and exploited for thousands of years, because it works effectively, reliably, to keep you in line no matter how much it may otherwise irritate you.
Read Morelurkerhasarisen
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
My point is philosophical. By the time the cops show up, the action is usually over. The people on the scene are the first responders, while the cops are the last responders.
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."
I don't see why last responders need better weapons than the first responders who have to deal with bad situations with no warning, yet here we are talking about giving machine guns to civilian cops.
Civilian law enforcement never requires laying down full-auto covering fire, anyway . Cops should aim before each trigger squeeze.
If I am not allowed to carry the sort of weapons I carried in defense of the nation (this isn't all that different than the M4 I carried in Afghanistan except it can fire full auto rather than just burst fire), I fail to see why a civilian cop would ever need access to it. If these things need to be on the streets because a very small number of bad guys have a lot of firepower, then we, as members of the militia, have every bit as much need for them as the fat Barrney Fifes who waddle around with badges.
So I guess what I'm saying is that if "last-responers" (cops) need machine guns, then certainly first-responders (the private citizens who are on the scene when a crime is in progress) need them even more. But the cop unions aren't in favor of "civilians" having the firepower they claim to need to deal with the same bad guys we face.
If civilian cops have some theoretical requirement for machine guns, either stop regulating them (like the 2A requires), or make the same rules for everyone. Maybe let cops keep them in a locked safe in the back of their vehicle that can only be opened by a supervisor (in person or remotely) who will be held personally responsible if Officer Roidrage starts spraying the neighborhood with lead.
If I'm coming across as having a low opinion of civilian cops, it's because I do. I've known a few good ones, but I've known far too many idiots, bullies, and scumbags to think highly of them as a group.
Read MoreTypo-MAGAshiv Embrace Masculinity
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
Why TF do civilian cops need military weapons?
have you not seen the firepower various gangs and other criminal organizations have?
Cops in most areas shouldn't be walking around with weaponry similar to what we carried in Iraq, but they should certainly have it available.
Chantfire
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
@lurkerhasarisen most law enforcement authorities usually use the CR 223 or G36 which are less powerful than the MK 556. The G36 (which is another version of the MK 556) is mainly used by police units in Spain, theĀ United Kingdom, Kurdistan Region, and Germany. The G36 was apparently effective during the Kosovo War, Rio de Janeiro's security crisis, the Libyan Civil War, the Lahad Datu standoff, and the Mexican Drug War. Based on how heavily armed the Mexican cartel tends to be I believe this weapon is perfect because it is durable and can pack up to a 100 rounds which may be necessary when the cartel is involved.
lurkerhasarisen
2 weeks ago Weapons' Cube
Why TF do civilian cops need military weapons? I hate that the phrase "military and law enforcement" is treated as normal... two similar aspects of the same entity. I'm not convinced that civilian cops should have instant access to lethal weapons when there are so many non-lethal ways to handle situations available to them. If there's a legitimate law enforcement use for a fully automatic weapon, I have never heard of it.