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@carnold03 all carnold's advice boils down to "buy my book!"
I found that most of the time that if she didn't want to meet up within a chat session or two, she just enjoyed the attention and moved on. I also found that if she didn't fuck me within the first encounter/date or two, it wasn't going to happen and she just liked free dinners and attention.
This is toxic masuclinitity.
I'm literally shaking right now.
@Mountainman There is no such thing as a "talking stage".
If you are in a "talking stage" you either havent escalated, or you;ve been friendzoned.
We just had an entire thread start because @Chantfire quoted the author, and I gave him shit for it.
And as I said within the thread:
you know what's funny?
Doc Love might actually be good.
But I'll never know, because carnold's constant spamming of that book with the same copied + pasted screed every time has made me incredibly averse to giving any of Doc Love's shit a chance.
But to answer your question: I have no idea if it's worth reading. @Chantfire seems to think so.
And do you have a recommendation for how to master the talking stage?
I never really thought of anything as a "talking stage" or "talking phase". I always tried to gauge her interest level and escalate or disengage accordingly.
Over the course of my pickup/player days (2002-2004), I found that most of the time that if she didn't want to meet up within a chat session or two, she just enjoyed the attention and moved on. I also found that if she didn't fuck me within the first encounter/date or two, it wasn't going to happen and she just liked free dinners and attention.
Learn to look for signs of interest and disinterest.
Escalate, escalate, escalate.
Get out there and practice. There's no teacher like experience.
Learn from successes and failures and calibrate.
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@Typo-MAGAshiv is the book worth reading haha? And do you have a recommendation for how to master the talking stage?
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@Mountainman No doubt you've been dealing with some heavy stuff lately. These things obviously affect a person - hopefully just for a while though.
I second @typo-MAGAshiv on No More Mr Nice Guy. That + When I Say No should get you well started on your people pleasing tendencies.
If your family dynamic has generally been dysfunctional/toxic (I realize the recent context is not normal), therapy might be worth considering as well. Mental scripts from our formative years tend to take deep roots in our psyche. They might not serve you well.
But also, just generally get things in order, and live a good life. Getting your own place sounds good. King of your own castle, and all that...God, I miss that peace (married w/ kids).
@Typo-MAGAshiv definitely, and I haven't read the sidebar yet. I do agree with the whole 'women seeing me as a nice guy' thing - it's just how I come off because of the way I was raised. It's disgusting and fake and I'm slowly unlearning it, but it isn't easy. I generally don't try to chat up women either, I'm very quiet so they ignore me.
But yeah, overall, I want to give them a taste of their own medicine ngl idk who decided that women need to have this much power at all, that needs to be stopped immediately. I've found that attention is like crack to them and if you ignore a good looking woman they'll go postal af. Fucking pathetic, but that's women for you ig