The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
degrade
You mean "downgrade" or "demote".
Unless you really meant "degrade", in which case just spit in her face and call her a bitch.
But you back out. Withdraw attention, affection, and any commitment you may have given.
Usually done silently. Just fade slowly and withdraw. Spend less time with her.
If you verbalize any demotion, you may as well just dump her outright.
@Typo-MAGAshiv how do you degrade a chick? Do you verbalise it or is the whole rank thing just in your head?
@Typo-MAGAshiv my goal wasn't a LTR. One of my plates was just better than the others and test-driving phas was over and I couldn't tell here again that I need more time.
Why shouldn't LTR be the goal right now? I committed so continuing spinning plates is probably a bad idea I guess. So I guess having the best possible relationship with here is the goal. I will bring here back to the streets if she ain't acting right. She gave me already everything I wanted.
Is this a healthy belief?
I will never marry, but deep down in my nut sack I feel that I want to get women pregnant. To create men and women who will continue to do good even when I'm gone.
@Mate1212 too many people (men and women both) obsess over "red flags", and many of what they label as such are really just yellow flags, as in, "proceed with caution if you proceed at all" rather than "don't even try with this one! Get out!"
About the only professions I can think of that would be absolute no-gos for me are strippers and hookers.
A lot of dudes will say nurses, teachers, and others, but how the individual woman behaves and treats you is far more important than her job.
And hell, your goal isn't an LTR or marriage anyway, right?
Some guys say that women should stay at home. What do you think?
Under our current system, thats a bad idea.
1) a single paycheck usually isn't enough to get by when supporting a family.
2) in the event of divorce, if she's raised the kids while you worked, the court will see no reason to disrupt that arrangement. Have fun with very little visitation while paying a ton in child support!
Why did all women used to be stay at home mothers and now they think working is more fulfilling?
Feminism and social conditioning.
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Which jobs are red flags for women? Are there jobs where it's better to leave here immediately besides sex work?
Bartenders, servers potentially because of the amount of validation and attention they receive while working.
Nurses was mentioned. I've heard it explained well, it's something to do with the power dynamics of being around "powerful" doctors all day. Similarly airline steward.
Some guys say that women should stay at home. What do you think? (leading the witness)
I think women are free to do as they please.
What if she doesn't want to be a stay at home woman? What if she's interested in a career.
See above.
Why did all women used to be stay at home mothers and now they think working is more fulfilling?
Keeping a house once was a full time jobs. Now not as much. Wasn't it WW2 that got women really into the workforce? Economic reasons as well. You could raise a family on a single income. As for why? Feminism.
Read MoreWhich jobs are red flags for women? Are there jobs where it's better to leave here immediately besides sex work?
Apparently, women in health care are notorious for cheating. But it seems kinda silly to limit your options over statistics. You probably don't do that in other aspects of your life. Better to maintain an outcome independent mentality, and judge for yourself along the way, on an individual basis.
At the end of the day, anyone can fuck you over in a number of ways. The aim isn't to have a "problem free life", but to be able to properly deal with problems when they arise. In order to do that, you need to have a bit of a NGAF attitude. Obsessing over statistics, in a effort to remain "safe", is in many ways the opposite of that. I'm not saying to be reckless, but don't be autistic either.
Some guys say that women should stay at home. What do you think?
No. In my opinion, a woman should contribute half to paying bills, and I should spend as much time with the kids as she does. Otherwise, I'm left in a real shitty position in the event of divorce. I'm not living for my work just so that somebody else can freeload, and then keep leeching off me once she gets bored. In the age of kindergartens, dish washers, and robotic vacuum cleaners, a SAHW is mostly just a liability, and not necessary.
What if she doesn't want to be a stay at home woman? What if she's interested in a career.
Fine by me. As long as it doesn't entail taking her job home with her, or working when the kids are home from kindergarten/school.
Why did all women used to be stay at home mothers and now they think working is more fulfilling?
They don't necessarily think that. Lots of women get a reality check once they have kids, and start longing for a time when they could just stay at home. It's not economically viable for the middle class anymore, though. And you can thank the boomer generation for that. Besides, even if the guy can afford to support a SAHW, it's become a legal liability with regards to finances and custody after divorce, and due to the fact that you simply can't trust women to uphold an oath anymore.
Gotta get with the program, and adapt.
Read MoreWhich jobs are red flags for women? Are there jobs where it's better to leave here immediately besides sex work?
Some guys say that women should stay at home. What do you think?
What if she doesn't want to be a stay at home woman? What if she's interested in a career.
Why did all women used to be stay at home mothers and now they think working is more fulfilling?
They can be very fun to get wrapped up in but if you start falling for them, it's going to be a rocky ride before she finally leaves you broken.
@First-light I don't know is general theme (there is importantly a big language barrier that works as a plausible deniability in all this) but using all your remarks, she knew when to drop inflammatory point/topics veeery fast.
In the moment of arousal I have made a question statement "you like playing with boys" to which I got straight "yes".
After sex I have followed up with, with a "so which age do you find easiest to play with and influence" as to clarify to what did she understand.
-"30y old men" was the answer -I'm surprised that its not 20yo -I don't like 20yo, they don't know what they want
@bozza @menorpheus