Not really sure how to start this but here we are. I'm someone who is obsessed with the truth and all of it's infinite complexities, at the time of me writing this some parts of my life feel uncertain while others don't, life is quite the entertaining mystery isn't it? Collectively and individually we're at a strange junction in human civilization, born to early to explore the stars and too late to discover another continent, I guess we should just brows dank memes on the internet and capitulate like the rest of the heard, right? Obviously not if you're searching for meaning or truth. I've only really found a few ideas that are Universally Whole Unbiased Truths, UWUT?, in no particular order they're death, change, infinity, and government (or group consciousness, because whoever controls the government partially "governs" the "mental" state of the masses). While I consider myself some type of anarchist, I have to admit that even if I somehow could dismantle the US gov't nothing would stop another group of people from replacing the one I just broke. We are creatures of habit and I make a point to make excellence a habit because I know that I could leave life right now. Facing your mortality might frighten you dear reader, but I choose to be grateful for everything that sustains me, and if there is a God thanks for not killing me yet, asshole. I suppose this brings me to my point, sharing these ideas with people brings me a lot of happiness. I refrained from posting on Reddit when I first found and swallowed the red pill because I figured I didn't have enough experience to contribute anything useful, also I avoided lifting this entire time (like 3-4 years) because I wanted to be a "special" snowflake who did Brazilian jiu-jitsu instead. Now that I'm actually practicing what is preached here I won't feel like a fraud which is nice, and since I finally think I have value to contribute to this community, I think it would be dope to make a weekly podcast for those interested. Just drop a comment with any topics you'd want me to talk about, also I'm heavy into conspiracies so when I'm ready with a presentation I'm working on currently I'll post a linkRead More
@GayLubeOil I wonder if it all didn't just kind of spiral out of hand.
Originally, the whole PUA thing was supposed to be "Here's this set of tricks you can do to get women to have sex with you. There. Now that your sexual needs are met, you can go back to doing whatever it is you're into and progressing at life, and just use these tricks to meet your sexual needs when necessary."
But suddenly, it stopped being a bag of tricks and became some kind of bizarre lifestyle. Piles of online forums. A community of guys, all of them talking about how cool this shit is, but few if any of them actually doing the shit they're talking about. Piles and piles of useless information covering up the few pieces of actually useful information. On top of it all, dozens of guys coming out of the woodwork with dollar signs in their eyes, declaring themselves gurus who can fix all of your troubles.
The manosphere changed from here's a set of tricks to help normal guys become normal guys who fuck into here's this massive community and way of life and an identity for lost boys to subscribe to and believe in.
The manosphere literally became a religion boys follow, with beliefs and priests and the whole nine yards. So it's not that surprising that an accomplished PUA charlatan priest might try to make more money being a real charlatan priest for a real religion.Read More
@adam-l the 21 Convention is what happens when the Manosphere is not held to any standard physical or intellectual.
So yes holding people to a standard does makes sense especially if you want to ensure quality of the organization in the long-term.
Hurp Durp! I'm a masculine alpha but I'm categorically against men holding each other to any kind of concrete standard
Sounds like bourgeois (non) masculintity to me
It's not about the gayness. Falling for compliance tests from random internet guys makes no sense. Comparing notes is what we still do in the manosphere, not gathering internet points.
As a side note, your invocation of ancient Greek practices to refute "gay", I find it... refreshingly novel! ;)
Psuedo-Christian, the time has come to say, Okay. You're monetizing, what's your price for fight? Being Mr. Right? [Sorry, that song parody just came out of fucking nowhere...]
If its YouTube and a pivot its about money and its purely the algorithm. Ego is the enemy and Rollo mayhaps have lost the pecunic battle and the pivot is merely the real-world A|B test of "shit, 've gotta eat." So much on YouTube is just utter trash, everyone is pissing in the wind and calling it rain. Sometimes it is. Mos'times it ain't. The Rational Male books need a do-over anyway, because concatenating together a history of forum posts is repetitive and hinders the signal just as monetization biases the signal. Let's not get fooled by randomness, it is low-effort content-aggregation that got lucky.
Reddit at least was good for the Manosphere in helping us find more signal with the law of large numbers. More people bitch'n is more experiments and evidence. Its no surprise that it got quarantined, humans don't like their biological/psychological defects attacked. Won't be the last and it wasn't the first. The private places men used to gather were demolished by politics or destroyed by accident or time, so we had to create them anew but now we have a faster network. I can write bits at you and you can write bits at me and neither of us will smell like cigar smoke and quality booze. The old places, well, they had cigars and quality booze, but they're were not efficient engines of self-improvement outside of the old-boy's overlay network.
Collect the evidence, shut up and multiply, publish without ego. Accept your lumps when you fuck up, land your accolades in fucks given. Rollo's ego is outed so unfortunately it makes it easy for all to paint the target and pile on.Read More
@destraht Most sports are generally more fun to particpate in than to watch. Like one of my Jr. High School French teachers used to preach "Life's not a spectator sport".
I think that one of the great benefits of wrestling is learning how to be calm when your head is smashed against the floor and you can barely breath through some cloth.
Maintaining composure under challenging circumstances. Isn't this the basis of frame encouraged around here?