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23m ago Ask TRP Forum
Need analysis on LTR ending despite maintained frame
Context / Situation
I was in an on-and-off relationship with a girl for about 4 years. We were in different cities most of the time.
First breakup: after ~1 year (3 months apart), then got back together easily
Second breakup: around 2–2.5 years in (6 months apart), then got back together again
Final breakup: after ~4 years, still separated now
The dynamic was very simple: Mostly sexual relationship (we met at home, didn’t really go out, no dates/activities) Strong physical attraction from her side, very high desire I kept communication limited (sometimes 2–3 days no contact, usually only talking at night) I was always clear: no marriage, no kids
On her side: Very loyal (as far as I could verify) Removed other men from social media Gave me full access to her phone, stayed with me for long periods Never complained about the lifestyle (no dates, mostly sex, limited communication)
Key Turning Point (Main Problem) After the 6-month breakup, I saw other girls. When we got back together, she knew about it. However, I continued seeing one of those girls (so effectively cheating). She checked my phone behind my back → found out Big fight → I blocked the girl → things calmed down
Then after few months: The same girl followed me again on Instagram → I accepted We fought again → I told her she can’t control who I follow She acted like she accepted it But behind the scenes: She contacted that girl Got full confirmation of everything (meeting, details, etc.)
Second Turning Point (Escalation) At that time, I had planned to visit her in her city for a few days. For ~2 weeks before the visit, she acted completely normal Told me she loved me, missed me, etc. Did NOT reveal she knew everything
When I arrived: She confronted me immediately Said she only brought me there to tell me and send me back From there: Huge arguments I denied everything and reframed it as happening during the breakup Eventually convinced her to continue the relationship
Even after that: The trip was full of tension, fights, and exhaustion Aftermath of That Event After returning home: I flipped the situation and blamed her for “lying and trapping me” Told her trust was broken (even though I was the one cheating) Said I lost feelings and needed time
Then few months later: More fights over time I asked for a 1-month “break” (not breakup) Expected her to fully apologize for what she did (the “trap”) She: Apologized partially, but didn’t fully accept blame the way I wanted Final Phase
After the break: She came back very cold, distant, and confrontational 3 days of constant tension and arguments Then I: Got fed up Ended things and blocked her
Important point: In previous breakups, she never let it end like this. She always came back or stayed responsive.
This time: No response After ~2 weeks → removed me from social media Completely cut off My Reaction & Her Final Decision
After ~1 month: I felt bad for what i did i reached out again She ignored calls for about a week Eventually spoke → very cold, firm decision
She said: I never treated her well We never went out, never did anything But: She NEVER complained about this during the relationship
Final outcome: She refused to come back Completely detached despite years of high attraction and compliance
My Hypotheses I have a few possible explanations but I’m not sure which one actually matters:
Frame drop due to business struggles After the “trap” situation, we stayed together for ~4–5 months. During that time, I had just launched my business. I was talking to her about not having many clients Expressing frustration/disappointment regularly Even though financially I was completely fine and stable I’m wondering if talking about these difficulties could have made me lose frame in her eyes, even if objectively I wasn’t struggling.
Life upgrade on her side (job + independence) This part happened very late in the relationship, around the final phase. During the 1-month break I asked for, she got a job Most likely around 2 weeks into that break She did NOT inform me about it when we resumed talking for those 3 days after the break She also didn’t mention that her grandmother had passed away I only found out about both: After the final breakup When I reached out again (about a month later), mainly because I felt bad after learning about her grandmother At that point, I discovered she had already started working and kept all of this completely to herself. So I’m thinking: She may have gained independence very quickly in that short period Her mindset may have shifted without me realizing Possibly met someone else through that new environment
Accumulated resentment finally breaking point Even though she never complained during the relationship: No dates Mostly sexual dynamic Limited communication Cheating + denial Maybe she tolerated everything until a certain threshold, and once it was crossed, she mentally checked out completely.
Main Question What actually caused the final switch? Why did she go from high desire + always coming back → to completely cold and done? Why didn’t she come back this time like before? Was it a single event (cheating exposure, “trap”, frame drop), or a cumulative effect over time? Looking for a clear, honest analysis of the dynamic.
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