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@MentORPHEUS Its a tough one. No man is an island, yet he has his own mind. Your personal ethics will never align exactly with any other man's and certainly not the state's.
So you will find there are times when you personally won't go along with a friend or with the state because its too much for you. Other times you may have to pick one over the other. One can hurt you more, one can love you more. Its tough.
But if you just cede all personal responsibility to the state and say "I will always report my friend cos the law is good, so he done bad" I fear you are losing part of your humanity. Man is the strength and joy of his fellow man.
which and avoid ever considering the first (dishonourable) type as trustworthy. The think compliance is honour.
This slippery slope, however, leads to things like both the Neolib Biden Administration, and the Neocon Trump administration.
Putting a standard of group honor above individuals' own standards and ethics, isn't something I'm throwing my support behind.
@Polishknight if you're ever tempted to listen about Europe from in native language [some of the vids are translated to EN by AI]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFl48Qd-szY - dude lives in UK and he is using layered language with twists to describe UK transformation to polish ppl. Good to train the language, he is skilled at telling stories, some or all of which are other ppl stories told as his own.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-G-SauoMY - this dude lives in Germany and talks about changes in EU and Germany, but most of his materials are covering a lot of other interesting topics about manufacturing, AI, history. This video really made me look at the AI changes at the different angle.
the remaining 10% is extremely good at meditation
I don't like woman swearing like dudes [another one being HEandOnAShoe or something]. Although the RPW might have a use. Women will need a virtual women tribe.
Downside is they are out of control [line any external source].
which s&p stock rose the most from the Nov 2019
-Nvidia (NVDA): Rose approximately 15.8x (a ~1,480% increase). In November 2019, Nvidia's split-adjusted price was roughly $12.10. By January 2026, the stock reached approximately $191.10.
-Tesla (TSLA): Rose approximately 15.4x (a ~1,440% increase). Tesla traded at a split-adjusted price of about $28.00 in November 2019 and stands at roughly $432.96 in early 2026. While Tesla led the index in 2020 with a record 743% gain, Nvidia’s consistent growth since 2023 has allowed it to narrow and eventually overtake Tesla's total multiple gain.
-Super Micro Computer (SMCI): While it only joined the S&P 500 in March 2024, its growth since 2019 has been even more extreme, rising over 1,400% in the five years leading into late 2025.
Was it luck, analysis or plenty of automated microtransactions and taking suckers for a ride. I have one speculation stock. It has wild rides. If I would trade it more carefully I would get out of it 500% in the last 2 y easily
Read More@carnold03 I think you have put this more concisely than I could have. this is a good comment. If we disregard these guys as "incels" or low value losers then we are ignoring the canary in the coal mine.
The canary dies first because it is weakest. When the canary dies, you know there is a problem. These guys are in the same messed up continuum we are, they are just closer to the fire burning a hole in men's oportunities and happiness today.
Just because the weakest links are breaking does not mean we should not be understanding them or caring about them even if we do not want to emulate them. They have a contribution to make.
Personally I don't really like this praxeology thing anyway. It flies (at least in interpretation) a bit close to "Lived experience" which is a woolly notion the left hides behind for needing special treatment, cancelling and deplatforming people. I want to look for objective measurable reality.
A praxeology studies intentional behaviour (regardless of outcome I might note) and not unconscious and reflexive behaviour. Actually a lot of what we talk about is unintentional and reflexive and where we use intent it is often with the ultimate aim of changing a lived experience to create better reflexive and unintentional behaviour. (like how young men of low status view themselves and interact with women, so they can have more happiness and success).
I am not really happy with the notion of us being a praxeology and would be glad to debate it with anyone who would like.
There is a reality out there. Our aim is to objectively measure it. and act on what we find. If you want to go with "lived experience" I am cool with that so long as every man is a sensor in the array of lived experience. If we don't like how uncalibrated some sensors are, its very hard to say who is right and who is wrong because we all have a subjective assessment of reality.
Sorry to others that is this my only reply to date for a while. Just been a bit busy and its a good topic and deserves a good answer. I just thought Carnold had a good point here that was worth highlighting. These low status men are part of the whole situation and should not be disregarded or silenced because they have not been approved by being worthy of women's love.
Read MoreI don't necessarily agree with every word they both say, but they're overwhelmingly positive voices in the manosphere.
I agree exactly with this.
I have a gut hunch about those two. Cannot put a finger on it, but I am right more often than I am wrong about internet clowns.
Still, they deserve massive credit for their parts.
I said “misgivings” for a reason - although I don’t even know what that really means!
I have misgivings about a few content creators - Rollo, Paul Elam, and Ryan Stone are a few. They seem to want to claim ownership of parts (or all) of "the red pill.”
I don't know much about Elam. Kevin put one of his videos in the WAATGM sidebar, and it's the only thing from him that seemed worth watching for me. He mostly struck me as a whiner.
However, I must take up for Rollo and Rian on this. I've never seen either one try to "claim ownership", but rather steer discourse and correct misconceptions.
I don't necessarily agree with every word they both say, but they're overwhelmingly positive voices in the manosphere.
A) you fucked up my username. Twice, in fact. have some vcards!
B) a man can do everything "right" and still get suboptimal results. Ever listen to Rian Stone talk about how the guys at MRP end up? Most guys who show up don't put in the work and disappear. Of the guys who put in the work and run their MAPs, some of them end up divorced anyway. Of those who end up divorced, some of it is because their improvements were too little, too late. Others are because the wife is too retarded to appreciate a decent guy when she has one. Others initiate it themselves because after putting in all that work, they want better than their wives.
So again: you can do everything right, and still have suboptimal results.
To believe otherwise is a massive covert contract ("if I do all the stuff, I'll have a problem-free life!").
C) in your OP, you said:
If you don't have genuinely enjoyable sexual/romantic relationships with women, you are not red pill.
There are plenty of Red Pill MGTOW guys who are just done. Terrence Popp. Joker of Better Bachelor. Sandman. HammerHand. Some of the guys who used to populate the comments section at WAATGM such as our founder @Kevin32, and DangZagnut aka YouSaidChicken. All of them have demonstrated knowledge and experience, and have decided they'd rather not bother with women anymore.
I can understand and respect that decision, though it's not for me.
D)
If all his theoretical knowledge only brought him to a place of perpetual resentment, schadenfreude, victimhood, and a need to complain about everything under the sun,
The ones who fit that description are either new and still in the anger phase, or just got stuck in it way longer than most. They deserve pity and help rather than scorn.
... up to a point. If someone makes a deliberate decision to wallow in misery even after getting offered help, I'll roast the shit out of him for being a pussy-ass whiner.
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