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He might have been right about that but he chased Rollo and Rian Stone off the subreddit among a number of other creators and had too much leeway
He also did a good job inviting mass reports that ultimately contributed to the quarantine among other distasteful actions
I certainly would have banned him much sooner if I was a mod at the time. He outlived his usefulness and I won't divulge any more mod discussion than that
There is a reason he was also banned from dot reds. He had tremendous potential and couldn't put the community above himself
42m ago TheRedPill Forum
In Defence Of GLO
The thing about GLO is he was never off brand. People just couldn't see the brand clearly enough yet. The red pill is about rejecting comfortable narratives and seeing things as they actually are. Women, relationships, hypergamy, that's where most men start because it's personal and immediate. But the same machinery operates everywhere. Once you've genuinely clocked that the world isn't as it's presented to you, you can't selectively apply it. It bleeds into everything.
GLO bled into everything loudly and without apology and I thought he was a nutcase. Genuinely. I thought the man had lost the plot, that the good material was behind him and what was left was a madman ranting about politics on a dating forum. I wrote him off completely. I was wrong.
2016 was a strange moment. Trump, Brexit, all of it. When GLO went full throttle on the political stuff it felt like watching someone have a public meltdown. The TRP content was gold, everyone knew that, but this felt like a different person entirely. So I did what a lot of people did and dismissed it. Wrote it off as a man who'd gone too far down the rabbit hole and lost himself in the process. Held that view for a long time as well. Years.
Then slowly, bit by bit, the things he was pointing at started becoming impossible to ignore. Not fringe observations anymore. Not conspiracy theory territory. Just reality. You can see it everywhere now without even looking for it, every major institution, every corporation, every broadcaster, every school. The ideological capture of the west isn't something you need to go digging for, it's just there, sitting in plain sight. The water you're swimming in whether you've noticed it or not.
Europe is behind the US on this. That's just how it works, the cultural convulsions tend to start there and arrive here a few years later. But they arrive. And right now you can feel it coming in properly. The conversations that were happening in American forums in 2016 are happening in British pubs and workplaces today. Immigration, economics, identity, the total collapse of any coherent cultural centre. Same issues, same trajectory, just delayed.
The reason men who've swallowed the red pill on relationships eventually swallow it on everything else is because the dynamic is identical. You are being lied to by institutions that have their own agenda and it is not your agenda. The media, the government, the education system, same game running in every arena simultaneously. Once reality has confirmed your instincts over the official narrative in one area of your life, you start applying that same scepticism everywhere else. That's not paranoia. That's just paying attention.
GLO was right. He was loud and abrasive and ahead of his time and I thought he'd lost his mind. But the man was clocking something real while most of us were still laughing at him. The western male, the young working class man in particular, has been stripped of identity, purpose, economic stability and cultural footing. That's not a political talking point, that's just what's happened. And the institutions that existed supposedly to serve him either don't care or have been actively working against him for decades.
My own posts have been getting more political lately and I've been thinking about why. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think it's the same process, the same pattern recognition that got applied to women and relationships now getting applied to the bigger picture. You can only keep that contained for so long before it spills over.
And here's where I've landed. Men cannot afford to stay in the shadows on this anymore. This space has always been about men improving themselves, seeing the world clearly, refusing to accept the narrative handed to them. That same energy has to go somewhere beyond the bedroom. Our countries, our economies, our culture, our children's futures, all of it is at stake and the men who can see clearly have a responsibility to say so.
Women skew left. That's not a controversial observation, it's demographic reality. And for a long time men have either gone along with it or kept their heads down and said nothing. That era needs to end. The red pill doesn't stop at relationships. It never did. GLO knew that in 2016 and got called a madman for it.
He was right. And the time for sitting on the sidelines is over.
Read MoreI talk to them for about 30 mins. I go back inside the house and the friends of the girl I've been set up with, come up to me and start going off on me “you're such a slag blah blah”.
That's a beacon, man.
She wants you. She's talked to her friends about you and now they're approaching you trying to shame you away from other women towards their friend who wants you.
Drop what you're doing and pivot towards her, easy lay.
If you don't understand women you'll see it as hostile but it wasn't. They're hostile to protect their own territory.
Easy lay you missed out on. Maybe next time.
1h ago TheRedPill Forum
The Alt Girl Trap
This is a field report, and unlike most of the ones you'll read on here, it's third person. I had a front row seat to every bit of it. The guy in this story is my housemate. He moved in about a year ago and over that time we've become genuinely close friends. He's 23, good lad, but when he arrived he was as bluepilled as they come. I watched this whole thing unfold in real time, the beginning, the honeymoon period, the collapse, and what came after. I'm writing it up because this particular trap doesn't look like one at first, and that's precisely what makes it worth talking about.
The Alt Girl Trap
We'd been living together for a few months when he came to me about this girl. She was an alt girl, she had a troubled and interesting past. She liked to party and do drugs. She was pretty, sure. But a walking red flag if ever I've seen one. He was lit up about her in the way young men get when they've already made up their mind and are really just looking for someone to agree with them.
I didn't agree with him. I told him straight, nope the fuck out. Have fun if you want, but don't build anything there, don't catch feelings, give that one a wide berth. He heard me out and then went and got into a relationship with her anyway. Go figure.
And for a while it actually seemed to work. She cleaned herself up, pulled back from the partying, dropped the substances, started building something that resembled a stable life. She'd cook meals for him in the kitchen. She looked after him. They got on well and from where I was standing they looked like a decent couple. There were rough patches here and there but nothing that seemed terminal. I kept watching and at a certain point I had to acknowledge to myself that maybe I'd read it wrong.
What I couldn't ignore though was how he was conducting himself in the relationship. He was walking her to and from work every single day. Dropping whatever he was doing the moment she wanted something, no hesitation, no friction, his total availability was on demand. I pulled him up on it more than once. Tried to explain what that communicates, what it does to attraction over time, what it was slowly building toward. But it's hard to portray this without going full RP to someone who hasn't been unplugged. He'd hear me out and we'd have a decent conversation about it, and then nothing would change. It was just who he was. The guy was bluepilled to his bones.
Then life came at him from a few directions at once. Family problems, medical issues, a sustained stretch of real difficulty. He wasn't falling apart or looking for sympathy, he was getting on with it, but the weight was visible, and for a period he just wasn't himself. And, I respect the guy. He's working, he's doing a master's degree and he's going through a lot that most people would never (I won't elaborate). But let's just say this kid has got some serious stones and work ethic. Add in the emotional side and yeah, he's not playing around.
Yet, one vulnerable stretch and she started reassessing the whole relationship.
She pulled back. Then came the talk about "I need a break".
I heard that and I knew what it was. I tried to lay some groundwork with him, carefully because he was already in a fragile place. Told him to keep his eyes open, not to take the break framing at face value, to watch for certain things. He pushed back. Wasn't ready to hear it. I left the door open and waited.
It was a Friday night and I was in my room when I heard the knock.
I opened the door and there he was. Sheepish, hollowed out, something behind the eyes that said it all before he opened his mouth. He asked if he could come in.
He sat on the edge of my bed and told me she'd ended it by text. Not a conversation, not even a phone call. A text message. That was what a year of his life was worth to her.
We were in my room for over four hours. It was late, it was dim, and I just let him go through it, the anger, the confusion, the self-blame, the going over and over the same ground trying to find an explanation that made it make sense. I didn't try to steer it or rush it. When it had settled enough I started, carefully, telling him what I thought had happened and what I thought was coming.
I told him that this decision wasn't made on a whim. She'd been thinking about this for a while, turning it over, working up to it, and while he was sitting here blindsided, she'd already moved on. That's the part that's hardest to accept when you're in it. You think you're both at the starting line of the same painful process. You're not. She had a head start he didn't know about. What felt like a sudden ending to him had already been processed and filed away on her end. She wasn't going to need time. She already had another guy, or she would within days, because in her mind she'd already been single for longer than he realised.
How do I know this? Because I've been on this earth long enough to have lived through it myself, and because I've met, dated and loved a lot of women over the years. I know how it goes. He could believe me or not, I wasn't going to argue the point, but I'd seen this particular sequence play out enough times to know it wasn't going to deviate much from the script.
I told him she'd keep him in orbit, just enough to keep him available. That at some point she'd try to circle back around, not because she'd had some big realisation, but because it costs her nothing and keeps her options open. He pushed back on it. Of course he did. But I could see it landing somewhere underneath the resistance.
About a week later the full picture came out. When she'd sent that text she'd been out. Partying, back on the substances, the whole scene she'd supposedly left behind. She'd slept with another guy that same night.
And then came the part that said more about her than any of the rest of it. Her friends had called out her behaviour, the people who actually knew her, who'd watched the relationship, who'd seen what she was doing. They said something. And she cut them off. Cleared out every person in her life who would tell her the truth and filled the space with people who'd just agree with her. Without anyone to pull her back she went into a full spiral, drugs, chaos, no accountability, no anchor.
That detail is worth paying attention to. A woman who removes honesty from her life the moment it becomes uncomfortable is showing you something real about who she is. That's not someone going through a hard time. That's someone who has decided they don't want to be held to anything, and has arranged her life around that decision.
When he found out the state she'd gotten herself into I watched that old reflex fire up in him, the urge to fix it, to reach out, to feel somehow responsible for a mess he hadn't made. He wanted to intervene. Felt like leaving her to it made him the bad guy somehow.
That's where I stopped him.
Not your problem. She made every single one of those choices herself. The partying, the other guy, cutting off her friends, the spiral, all of it. You are not the solution to a problem you didn't create. And going back in to try and save her wouldn't have been some noble gesture, it would have been him walking straight back into orbit through the guilt door. I told him that plainly and I didn't soften it.
He sat with it for a while. It landed differently than the rest of what we'd talked about. Harder and more final (because it was). But he heard it. He listened.
Everything I'd laid out that Friday night came true more or less on schedule. The other guys, the orbit attempts, the eventual circling back, all of it showed up exactly as described. And each time he held his ground. He saw it for what it was and he didn't take the bait.
Watching him go from the person sitting broken on the edge of my bed that night to where he is now has been something else. He's not the same person. The guy who a few months ago only wanted to date with purpose, who talked about finding the right one, who was walking a girl to work every morning and dropping everything when she called, that guy is gone. He wants to spin plates now. Date casually. Live his life on his own terms. The fairytale has been retired. The spark that kept him chasing that particular dream has been extinguished, and in its place is something more useful, more honest, more durable.
It's like watching yourself through a third eye. I've been where he is. I know what that transition feels like from the inside. You don't get to this place without losing something first, and what you lose is the innocence of believing it works the way you were told it does. He's jaded now, and I mean that as a compliment. Because with jaded comes knowledge. Comes truth. Comes acceptance. The men on this forum who are worth listening to are all jaded to some degree. It's the price of admission for seeing things clearly.
My protege has grown wings.
The Five Stages, As I Watched Them
I've sat with a lot of men through breakups over the years. But watching this one play out from the next room, in real time, over weeks, gave me a closer view of the process than I've had before. The five stages of grief are real. They don't always come in order and they don't always look the way the textbooks describe them, but they're all there if you know what you're watching for.
Denial
The first night, sitting on my bed, he kept circling back to the idea that it wasn't really over. That the text was a reaction, that she'd cool down, that she didn't mean it the way it sounded. He wasn't being delusional, he was doing what the mind does when it can't yet process the size of what's happened. He kept saying things like maybe she just needs space, maybe I should reach out in a few days. That was denial doing its job, buffering him from the full weight of it until he was ready to carry it.
Anger
It came in waves and it came later than I expected. When the full picture emerged, when he found out about the night she sent that text, what she was doing, who she was with, that's when the anger arrived properly. He wasn't loud about it, he sat with it more than he expressed it, but it was there. Cold and quiet, which in my experience is the more dangerous kind. That anger was useful though. Anger is the stage that starts burning away the illusions. It's the emotional immune response, the body rejecting something that was making it sick.
Bargaining
This one showed up as the urge to save her. When he heard about the spiral, the drugs, the friends she'd cut off, he wanted to go back in. Wanted to reach out, check on her, be the one to pull her back. That was bargaining wearing a noble disguise. If I help her, maybe it means something. Maybe it changes the ending. Maybe it proves what we had was real. That's where I drew the line with him and it's the stage I've seen destroy more men than any of the others, because it looks like compassion and it feels like the right thing to do.
Depression
There was a stretch, a few weeks in, where he went quiet. Not dramatic about it, not asking for attention, just quieter than usual. He'd come home, we'd chat, but something was running underneath it all. The reality had settled in by then and he was sitting with it. The relationship was gone, the version of the future he'd imagined was gone, and the girl he thought he knew had turned out to be someone else entirely. That weight is real and it takes time to process. I let him have that time. Didn't push, didn't try to fast track it.
Acceptance
You know when it's arrived because the quality of the conversation changes. He stopped talking about her in terms of what went wrong and started talking about himself in terms of what comes next. The questions shifted. He wasn't asking why anymore. He was asking what now. That's when I knew he'd come through it. Acceptance isn't happiness and it isn't indifference. It's just clarity. The ability to see the situation for exactly what it was, without needing it to be something else.
That's where he is now. And it's a good place to be.
Takeaways
1. Reformed behaviour is not reformed nature, it's reformed circumstances.
She didn't leave that lifestyle behind because she'd grown out of it. She left because she had a reason to at the time. The moment the relationship stopped returning value, the moment he hit a rough patch and became less attractive to be around, the behaviour came straight back. That's the heart of the Alt Girl Trap. You're not seeing who she is, you're seeing who she is when things are working in her favour. Hypergamy doesn't take time off for personal growth.
2. Supplication kills attraction, just not immediately.
Walking her to work every day. Total availability, no friction, no pushback. None of that bought him security, it bought him the appearance of it until the moment it didn't. Unconditional availability doesn't make a woman feel loved. It makes her feel like she's holding every card. Eventually she plays them.
3. How a woman exits tells you more than how she entered.
A text, while she was out, another man the same night. There's always the temptation to look for nuance, to wonder if it was more complicated underneath. It wasn't. The way someone ends things is data. She didn't struggle with it. Hold onto that the next time you're inclined to extend more benefit of the doubt than the evidence warrants.
4. Watch who she cuts off when things get uncomfortable.
The moment her friends said something honest, she removed them and surrounded herself with people who'd tell her what she wanted to hear. That is not a coping mechanism, it's a character reveal. A woman who systematically removes accountability from her life when it becomes inconvenient is showing you her ceiling. There's no version of that story that ends well for the man involved.
5. Going back to save her is not nobility, it's the trap reopening.
The impulse to help is understandable, especially in a man who genuinely cared about her. But she made every choice that led to where she ended up, freely and with full awareness. Going back in to fix it wouldn't have been love. It would have been the oldest move in the book, guilt used as a leash.
6. Having the right people around you shortens the learning curve.
He didn't have to piece this together alone. He had a framework in advance, a prediction that came true quickly enough to work as a live lesson, and someone down the hall who'd sit up until 2am and tell him the truth straight. If you're the younger man in your circle, find someone worth listening to and actually listen when it's hard to hear. If you're the older man, be worth listening to.
The field will teach you everything eventually. But it doesn't have to cost as much as it does when you go in blind.
Read MoreBlowing up your marriage from boredom is far better than feeling unfulfilled, girlfriend! Dump the zeroes! Jump in bed with the heroes!
@Vermillion-Rx Didn't even occur to me to write up as a post, but yeah i'll write up tomorrow or something

