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SeasonedRP
12m ago  The Hub

@Bozza You can have the tren, my friend. I have never had a desire to try it, and at my age, overall health is more important. My background is in powerlifting, and even enhanced lifters I knew kept things pretty basic. Tren wasn't common. I've heard it is quite effective, though.

    

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SeasonedRP
15m ago  The Hub

@First-light It is bizarre at first glance how the medical establishment has no interest in treating low testosterone, but isn't surprising on reflection. I've heard that in Sweden, which is openly anti-male, medical providers simply won't treat it without men going through all sorts of hoops. Presumably, women who want to be boss chicks can get all they want.

The clinics here can be good but are pricey. Good ones look at everything, not just testosterone (e.g., thyroid, growth hormone, lipids). But it is fairly cheap and easy here for someone to do it himself. Good move on your part to stock up. I've heard it's easy to make your own.

    

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First-light
5h ago  The Hub

@Bozza When you consider that the average healthy male produces 42 to 49 mg of test a week and 70 is the usual natural ceiling, you seem good evidence that even at high doses Test is not the bogey man the left would say it is.

Misandry is quite deep in our culture.

I think when it comes to risk taking dopamine is a huge contributor. Getting a large dopamine reward for a risk taking behaviour makes risk basically a drug. I think it shows up quite well with what cabergoline can do to change someone's risk taking personality. But also when you just think about the kind of guy who naturally gets/ craves plenty of dopamine, that life and soul of the party guy, craving stimulation, he does seem to naturally take quite a lot of risks in life.

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Bozza
11h ago  The Hub

@First-light

The more I learn about testosterone, the more I tend to think that men probably behave better in society with levels in the high normal range as well as being more productive.

As a man who has taken TRT/Anabolics for years, I can tell you hormone levels have a much more complex relationship with behaviour than is usually portrayed/understood.

The usual portrayal is - more testosterone = more aggression, risk taking etc. - which isn't really the case.

Personally, I'm not hugely affected by testosterone levels. The difference between 600mg/wk and 200mg/wk isn't hugely distinguishable for me. I feel no real difference between those doses.

At lower levels of test, yes - the impact can be pretty profound in terms of lethargy etc.

Estrogen on the other hand is a very powerful hormone in my experience. At higher doses of test, without anti-estrogen, the effects become very apparent - random crying, paranoia, other stereotypically "female" behaviours.

Tren is a good example. Extremely powerful anabolic (500x more potent than test) which I've taken multiple times. Sometimes it makes me extremely aggressive. Other times it's had little to no impact at all.

I'm convinced dopamine, serotonin etc also play a huge factor.

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MentORPHEUS
16h ago  Development Updates

Partial success on the long post issue. One went through ok. Then I tried the one to Typo, and it gave a shorter there was a problem with your request message. I finally just split that post into 2 smaller bites and got them posted that way. Perhaps it might help if the error handling routine also shows the user a specific error code that they can pass on to you when reporting, so you don't burn a bunch of time trying to replicate the issue before getting to the fix. E

    

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MentORPHEUS
16h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv

This one that keeps getting served to me, sounds like they hired the cast of Stomp!, mic'd up their hands and feet better than Erika Kirk in Charlie's coffin, then clicked a 10 second timer and had them go at it.

Boom-Boom! Snappa-dappa dappa dap! Boom Boom! Snappa Dappa dappa dap! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

And... that's IT! That's the entirety of the message. I marvel at how low the clients' ROI must sit.

I'm speaking as someone who made and placed print ads for my business back in the day. I read through a stack of college level textbooks on advertising and marketing. It's like today, all of that accumulated wisdom got hucked out the window by even big ad firms with high dollar clients making massive media buys.

    

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MentORPHEUS
16h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv

have you had any extra-long, unskippable ads lately? Was busy offline for a few days there, then the site had posting issues.

No, the bigger channels I watch have been sandwiching a long form but skippable ad between 2 shorter ones at the beginning of a podcast lately though.

What blows me away, is the apparent loss of decades worth of advertising wisdom and practice in the past couple of years.

It's fundamental, to make your prospect see your product, then to induce in them a desire to buy it. This is still possible within the dominant 10 or 15 second formats that prevail today.

However, ad after ad after ad, just gives a burst of noise and a blur of rapidly changing imagery, then it's gone leaving the viewer thinking, "What the fuck was THAT???" No idea what the product even is, no attempt to make me think I need or want it; just a mimicking of 10 second Tiktok bits trying to act Too Cool for School.

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First-light
16h ago  The Hub

@SeasonedRP The more I learn about testosterone, the more I tend to think that men probably behave better in society with levels in the high normal range as well as being more productive. All the negativity comes from misandry added to a misunderstanding that dose is everything when it comes to what Testosterone does for a man. TRT and a steroid cycle are very different things but the public just hear "Steroids".

I have never tried it. I looked into it but decided to keep going naturally at least for now. But before trump squeezed the Chinese retailers, I but put into my freezer raws of 2 different esters each of which would take me to age 100 at TRT doses. It was a very cheap insurance policy. It cost me about as much as 2 months of TRT from a clinic in fact. I think its insane the gate keeping on men having TRT when you compare to women and HRT and I think its sad how much profiteering is being made off men who want that gate opened officially for them, particularly when you consider that most docs just put most men on a standard 100 to 200mg test C (usually just depending on how much extra the guy asks to be given), take occasional bloods and count the profits.

My lady by contrast gets government sponsored HRT for a year for the cost of a lunch for 2 at the cheapest restaurant in the nearby town. Being female, she is often on the phone to the doctor wanting to change the dose, the brand or the delivery method in the hope it will make her less disillusioned with the far side of the wall and the doctor just says "yes M'am" with without seeing her to whatever she wants (and she has never taken bloods). And we apparently have no systemic misandry...

These hormones are not actually expensive. Its just a system that wants to gate keep men and profiteer.

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SeasonedRP
19h ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS Low testosterone is the one condition the medical establishment does not want to treat. Its response to significant drops in average levels over the years has been to lower the scale for what is "normal" (not optimal). When discovered, it was thought of as "sinful" because of its association with sex drive. Now, its "sin" is being associated with masculine traits.

I am suspicious of how this had been reported. I bet it was merely added to the list of things routinely screened for in medical exams of older soldiers. Physicians typically don't test for it and don't want to treat low levels. I'd rather the military do this than fund a bogus study like the VA did to avoid the high cost of gels used to treat it.

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1d ago  The Hub
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