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I'm not sure as for the machiavellianism. I don't think a fool is capable of the tactic and foresight for it.
I'm here to warn men: individuals can function very poorly by cognitive measures, yet actually EXTREMELY skilled at manipulating people socially and emotionally. I got tangled up once with a real Lucifers Daughter. Figured initially would make a convenient fuck buddy and easy to discard. Ended with her breaking into my house as I slept, AFTER screwing all the doors and windows shut from the inside, and repeatedly disappearing into thin air when the increasingly skeptical cops arrived. Glorious was the day I finally got my day in court for a restraining order, and she had the poor sense to show up to contest it WITH active arrest warrants. Bottom line: never get complacent assuming low cognition means safe from high Machiavellian function level!!!
Read MoreReform - right (leftists would call hard right) Labour - left (incumbent government) Liberal Democrats - centre left Conservative - right Green - hard left
Also based Rupert Lowe with Restore, won 10/10 of the seats he campaigned in. Beating Reform by a landslide.
Today was the UK local elections. it doesn't mean too much politically, as most of these seats are for local councils with limited power. Their power is mostly fixing the roads, trash collection etc. But it's somewhat analagous to the US midterms in terms of a bellweather for political opinion.
Well, the right won massively. Given reform didn't even exist a few years ago, this is an earthquake in british politics.
The greens (fringe left) had a lot of hype and support recently, turns out most of that was hot air.
It dawned on mean through self medication (marijuana, booze and other recreational narcotics) and doctor prescribed psych meds, that over 50% of the USA is on drugs daily.
Yes, naturally, intelligence is a product of evolution.
I believe the dimension of machiavellianism is independent of intelligence (re @Vermillion-Rx). It has to do with using other humans, as opposed of using nature. So, if human society is considered something positive, machiavellianism is basically parasitism. It's a strategy.
You can have stupid machiavellians. You see them everywhere. They try this and that small con. They eventually end up playing only with other stupids, because a smart guy figures them out.
Something I, and others, have been pondering, is the natural limit to intelligence. There's this unsolvable problem, death, for which there isn't a solution. We basically deal with it deceiving ourselves in a way or another. A bit too intelligent, and you might lose that capability, making you insane. The mad genius archetype, the bright kid who ends up with schizophrenia, etc.
And something that I have been pondering, is another problem of the same magnitude as death: realizing that your mother is not protective, but is taking advantage of you. The devouring mother is probably another route through which bright kids end up mentally unstable.
Read MoreNot sure. I mean many fools are useful and kept around for that reason and also I'm sure plenty of fools had parents who foolishly didn't wrap it or anything, hence why they exist at all. Fools are a necessary cog in society so they'll end up reproducing and allowed to
I'm not sure as for the machiavellianism. I don't think a fool is capable of the tactic and foresight for it. So I think it inherently requires intelligence as a pre-requsite as is.
I'd argue machiavellianism has more of a need to combat other savvy people, rather than mere fools. It's particularly useful on arrogants like shortsighted narcissists
@Vermillion-Rx That was good.
I don't think this is a tangent, but it made me consider a perspective I hadn't had before. Darwinism, we all know that those that survive have favourable traits, sexual selection etc etc. Well I'd never factored the mind in to that, cause y'know, physical traits help domination on the material plane. Is intelligence a genetic trait, anyhow? Machiavellian traits and methods of mental survival could develop in intelligent individuals to counter an increasingly stupid population.
@Adam-l I think that's your ball park, any substance to that?
