@First-light

I would argue they treat you even worse at some point. Once they turn on you something flips in their brain associating you with wasted time and they almost make a point to twist the knife

The more experience I get the more I realize correlations are an invaluable vetting tool. Here are two:

If the woman you are vetting feels drained when she helps people - instead of good about herself when she helps people - then it is a surefire sign that she is selfish. Women who actually care about people do not feel drained from basic acts of kindness and she doesn't have the capacity to love anyone, much less herself.

If a woman tolerates poor behavior from her closest associates (users, abusers, liars, cheats) and only cares how those people personally treat her, it is a good sign that she herself probably has those traits herself, doesn't have the self-esteem to find better associates, or both.

If a woman isn't bothered by evil she is not inspired by good. She will never do the right thing just because it is the right thing to do.

If a woman shows you a general lack of empathy unless it personally benefits her, it isn't because you don't deserve empathy, it's because she is cold. Don't let a woman convince you that you don't deserve humanity just because she personally lacks it. It isn't your fault, so don't let her convince you that it is

@Vermillion-Rx Check how she treats waiters in restaurants, checkout staff, cleaners and colleagues -people she does not need to impress. When she stops needing to impress you, you will be next.

When you hear about work, does she have a lot of hard done by stories? Do tradesmen rip her off all the time? Does she fall out with parents and siblings? Did her exes mistreat her? You will be next.

Men somehow often think that because a woman is flirting with them or acting submissive to them in some way, they have the keys that others don't and they get what others can't from her. The only difference is that men in this situation are being pursued. Soon enough they will be getting the same as everyone else and she will feel they owe her more than everyone else because she takes their dick.

@First-light I agree

@Vermillion-Rx

hard on

heh

I'm just making this post because it's just an own my shit post.

I've been too hard on a lot of men. Not that I want to offend or make anyone feel bad about something but because I just figured being blunt is the fastest path to clarity but it really isn't always the best.

I didn't get a lot of direct feedback in my younger years and wish I had gotten mistakes called out sooner so I could fix my shit faster.

Everyone is going through something, even if experienced. Guys mess up. I still mess up, too. Could be a lot gentler or at least end a critique with a boost or rapport. Just trying to own it, we're all human

For anyone I've been this way on it's not personal but I'll do better

@Vermillion-Rx

YOU are gay

@Typo-MAGAshiv

WHY are you GAY?!

I said no homo get off my dick