@mustangfrank1 I'm going to address this in a different order than what you said/asked because there are some misconceptions that need clearing up.

Keeping the site private will not grow the site

WAATGM isn't private. WATGMA, the child sub, is because it has migrated to forums.red only.

WAATGM has been restricted to 18+ for the past several years in an attempt to stay ahead of any attempts at banning or quarantining the sub. That can keep newbies from finding it as easily, but we (the WAATGM mod team) thought it worth it.

until the Reddit Mods closes that one down as well

Important distinction: you meant reddit admins. I was a mod at reddit for WAATGM and WATGMA. Mods are volunteers who own and run the various subreddits.

Admins are actual paid employees of reddit, and they fucking suck. They're the ones who permanently suspended me and @polishknight, they're the ones who banned the MGTOW subs, and they're the ones who quarantined TRP.

[creating different subreddits to bring in more people]

It won't work, most of us don't have time for that (I've barely been on here lately, and I have many conversations I haven't replied to yet from the past couple of weeks), and if reddit admins catch on, they'll ban all the subs for "ban evasion" like they did the MGTOW subs that weren't even connected to the original /r/MGTOW.

I've been intending to take it up with the rest of the WAATGM mod team that maybe we should remove the 18+ setting from the sub to get more visibility. We might discuss it privately, but this (changing the setting) probably won't happen very soon.

Talking with a new bartender at my favorite dive. Tall, skinny gothic six, with too much metal in her face. It's a little slow so she keeps circling back for conversation.

This goes on for about half an hour before I realized she thinks I'm actually interested in fucking. She complimented my style. Grabbed my hand to laugh with me.

Then in comes Sam. She interrupts our conversation, "Hey Kloi! Where's Libby?" While I'm explaining she's unpacking as I just moved her in, I see the gothic girl's face go from pleasant to sour.

After my interaction with Sam, goth bitch checks on me once to ask how the food is. Ran into Sam this morning and we had a good laugh over conversation how the new girl felt lead on. In Sam's words, "she thought you two were really connecting."

There's two take aways, first is on the female hamster. They'll automatically assume you're interested in them if you give them a miniscule amount of time/interest.

This plays into the second. This was casual, bar room banter. I never hit on or complimented her. I didn't even realize we were flirting. It wasn't until about 15 minutes into talking with her, that it even dawned on me she was interested.

This is what I mean by being a social butterfly. I just talked to her like I would anyone. Challenged an idea or two of hers. That was all it took to get her tingling.

A new 27yo hire at my job came back from the big city™ after being done fucking around with her college degree. Although we never interacted much (different departments) one day one of my boomer coworkers told me she was into me - I never paid attention so I wouldn't know. Next thing I know she's regularly in my face (23yo) and the boomers are trying to set us up for whatever reason, I guess the tradition there is that employees marry up eachother and we are all pretending to be a big family or whatever. Since I don't shit where I eat I stay friendly but politely give her signs to give it up. Boomer coworkers at this point are shaming me, labelling me as some kind of shy virgin - whatever, doesn't bother me, I'm not putting my d inside her.

Since gossip is currency the word goes around and it turns out she's having some sort of a fling with her 54yo coworker and I shit you not she's letting him hit on her publicly and while I don't blindly believe it - rumor has it she got/was almost groped, with witnesses of course. And from what I've seen personally there are more older dudes after her. What makes me chuckle is how she wasted her youth chasing useless degree, landing in a shitty ass job position around old perverts and instead of saving her last fertile youthful years she's having flings with random old dudes instead of looking for some beta Billy to save her from oblivion.

Then again I don't see her hitting it big. Mid face, unsexy body, random tattoos all over the place that remind me of my notebooks in high school, no real career. Honestly I feel pity for her, dunno if I should but I do.

Update on protoge.

He has been walking the line between beta and RP. His instincts are beta, but he can't deny that the things/advice I tell him inevitably turn out to be true.

He has, to his credit, suppressed his beta instincts and enacted my advice when given. He comes to me for advice, I give it, he disputes it, and then reluctantly enacts what I say. It hasn't been entirely smooth sailing, but he see's (and admits) that I seem to have some "deeper understanding" that he cannot deny.

The young lady in question is a very attractive (HB7/8) and for a guy who gets enamoured by any women he speaks to it's been a lot for him to overcome those beta tendencies. Especially when no other plates are on the scene - I've tried to push (and so has he) but his SMV is still a bit lacking. He really lucked out on this one.

I had thought that this was a bit of a lost cause. He failed to strike while the iron was hot and instead fell back on beta game. We went from strong moves to double dates with his friend. Somehow, even when I thought all was lost, he managed to seal the deal.

Of course that didn't stop him from letting his beta tendencies out - paying for her to go to a concert with him, and only days later having her over again to spent the night (and morning).

He says he just wants casual (plate) but his actions seem to say the opposite. The comfort tests have already started and I've warned him of what is going to come.

We will see how the next episode of this sage plays out.

(This is an abridged version, a forum writeup will probably come in due course once the saga has played out).