@SeasonedRP @SeasonedRP

The realization that you don't have to bleed out is indeed an important discovery. And for few thousand years we have been practicing bandaging and got really good at it.

What was profound however was relatively recent discovery that you don't bleed if you don't cut your dick off in the first place.

Your examples hinge on getting married which clearly proves that they didn't understand m-f dynamics and female nature.

There was no internet or anything termed "red pill," but there were people who "got it."

These guys are called naturals. They are few and far inbetween, mostly based on having innate genetic alpha traits. Most of them can't explain anything when asked. Most of them never get married. We reverse engineered game from them. They always existed in very few numbers and men in general never adopted their strategies,on the contrary, being not married was often shunned.

@SeasonedRP It's interesting to compare the "proto-RP" Hebrew bible (called "Old Testament" by Christians) to the BP "New Testament", employing Graeco-Roman law replacing the law of Mose.

There was lots of infighting between early Christian sects about the right way, from sharing everything including wives (communism) to sexual ascetism (like nofap), because the savior coming back is just around the corner. From the law of Mose being in full effect to being abolished completely, with the latter clearly being intended to make more proselytes.

In the end the sect in Rome closest to the Roman emperor made the cut and their variant became the state religion of the West, with the winners taking it all, retconning themselves into history and killing off opposition. Their model was serial monogamy, opting for the sexual strategy preferred by females.

@JamesSkepp I don't necessarily disagree with many of your points as you explain them specifically. And I'm not a historian or anything. My point is that there was some level of understanding of female nature going back thousands of years. The various people who authored the Old Testament manuscripts (many of the attributed authors are mythical) knew that women get bored with the same man after a time and prefer serial monogamy. But they also knew nuclear families or wealthy men providing for many wives was preferable to letting women pursue their biological imperatives, and also knew that men needed to be restrained somewhat, for the good of society. So they told people to get married, you could have more than one wife if you supported all of them and treated them well, you couldn't screw other men's wives, and women couldn't screw around at all before marriage or after marriage with anyone but their husbands. Further, men could initiate divorce for any reason if his wife displeased him, but women could initiate divorce only in limited cases. These were primitive people, but that does reflect a level of understanding of male and female nature and a desire to restrict both in a way that would lead to a healthy community. It was profound in a way because these people really were primitive.

Sometime watch the movie "The Last American Virgin." I think it was made in 1982. It shows an understanding of certain red pill concepts. It was eye opening in a way but also confirmed some things I had observed as a youth (this was a few years before I really got into dating). There was no internet or anything termed "red pill," but there were people who "got it." I learned everything through trial and error and from friends. I would say that back then, there were a significant number, not a majority by any means, of men who grasped red pill concepts at an intuitive level. There just wasn't any terminology or community. But occasionally you'd meet a like minded guy who got it and you'd compare notes and observe.

@MENTOrpheus might have some good input on your observations.