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@Chantfire I'm just back from this event, it was so fucking long.
But I cant talk about fight club.
The official event was a decoy.
If you sound too emotionless/un concerned a plate will eventually crash as they perceive you lack of comforting tone as proof that you don't really give a flying fuck about them. Even when actions would indicate otherwise.
She decided to get a little bratty/playful and wanted me to say please. So I yielded "please". She then pushed further "say the full sentence". Which I wasn't gonna do
You're too kind. You gave an inch and she wanted a mile. Either I wouldn't have complied at first or I'd have responded;
Bitch please come over in that sexy little outfit I enjoy so much on you.
She got what she wanted but not how she wanted it. I'd like to think it teaches them a lesson on being greedy but I doubt it.
It's just one of the little games I play for my own amusement.
I'm going to agree with @vermilion-Rx nothing you said sounds outlandish. As long as Don't then. came out with an undertone of playfulness.
What I've said in similar situations would be pretty much the same. Implying if you no longer want to come, so be it.
But I've spent years taking the condescending, annoyance out of my tone.
if they think you are absolutely dead serious
If I had a nickel for ever time a woman took a clearly sarcastic joke at face value...
Women are so solipstic that they will sometimes fully absorb a joke as reality
Yes, you almost have to find grounding facts to individually bring each girl back to reality.
Example my girl has some food allergies and if I really need her to understand something isn't serious, I'll throw in let's go get peanuts which lets her knows I'm fucking around because we both know it would kill her.
That's how aggressive you need to be if you deliver your response deadpan. My girlfriend bitches that my tone never changes from when I'm being serious versus sarcastic.
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Tone matters in shit test passes
It's entirely possible even just slightly different tone would have a different outcome
Personally, I've gotten some similar shit tests about not coming back and i just allude to what they'd miss out on
"If you don't want to have a good time again who am i to stop you"
"I'm not sure you'll be able to avoid coming back"
I don't remember my exact lines but even a few extra words a and cheeky confident attitude can pass
Basically being indifferent is passing if they think you are absolutely dead serious however it introduces overkill drama
Women are so solipstic that they will sometimes fully absorb a joke as reality if it isn't removed enough from literal
@Vermillion-Rx So example with plate 1 the other day.
I told her to wear a nice lingerie set for me. She decided to get a little bratty/playful and wanted me to say please. So I yielded "please". She then pushed further "say the full sentence". Which I wasn't gonna do, so I just kinda dismissed that.
As expected, she shows up in lingerie. But plays her own little punishment game - "I would have worn the suspenders if you'd have been polite". Again, some mild cheeky response back.
She pushes this little shit test about me "not being polite" a few times over the evening. Again, all pretty mild and I just reinforce that she does what she's told.
Then before she left I can't remember exactly what she said. But it was a shit testing my authority.
I came up with some witty clap back, to which she says "Well, maybe I just won't come back then". And looks at me playfully.
I fired back "Don't then".
She then puts on the fake shock face "Bozza!". Didn't really think much of it at the time, but her demeanor subtly changed after that. Nothing terrible, but I think the subtext of "you can be replaced" did upset her though she didn't want to show it.
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Do you mind sharing the example?
I can assume but it's challenging to tell
I rarely pass shit tests with force. It really doesn't take much if they already like you
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@Vermillion-Rx I think one of my biggest problems is my response to shit tests.
I come out with some pretty dgaf responses and they just roll off the tongue. And sometimes the responses I fire back are maybe a bit too daf when it should have been more soft.
Plate 1 was shit testing me the other day. Can't remember what I said back, but it upset her a little. Everything was smooth and she was still flirting heavily after that, but I could see there was a chink in the armour and she was a little upset with what I'd said.
So I might have to give her a little more comfort next time I see her.
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I'd have to know more about your typical interactions with women but honestly just some minor communication changes can convey a ton of rapport without losing frame
I don't know enough about how you interact with your women but just consider it's probably something you could change slightly without sacrificing your goals
As much as I hate Frank Luntz, i learned a massive lesson from his quote:
It's not what you say it's what people hear
Girls are heavily responsive to phrasing. Two guys that mean exactly the same thing could say it a different way and get different results
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@Vermillion-Rx Think I might need to calibrate, but we're still early days so not enough data points to go on yet.
My problem is that I generally lean quite cold in terms of emotion, and always have done. My ex left me because I wasn't giving her enough comfort (which I can see tbf) but I'll also take that explanation with a heavy helping of salt.
But then internally I think I run too beta and can slip into that quite easily. So it's a bit of an internal struggle really.
But we'll run a bunch more women, see what happens and then adjust accordingly.
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