@TwoInchesOfShaft

Again my post clearly stated that it was about “having to do more work = bad” and “not marriage = good”.

And again, my reply, @DeeplyDisturbed's reply, and @houseoftolstoy's all addressed both.

In case you missed these excerpts from mine:

It's more like, nose-to-grindstone, working shit tons of hours, and sacrificing everything resembling freedom and fun.

If anything, you take fewer risks because the downsides are catastrophic instead of just inconvenient setbacks....

I make a lot of money, but other than shit talking with you guys on here, I don't really have any hobbies.

That's not a balanced life, and once we reach a few financial goals, I'm stepping back the hours I work and getting back to frequent, regular gym time instead of the once per week if even that, and reading actual books.

I addressed both parts of your OP. You just didn't like what I had to say, because I didn't fall in line with "more work is actually a good thing, so get to it, serfs!"

In case you missed these excerpts from DD's reply:

First of all, is THAT the argument? Earning more money? Earning money for whom? We know who spends the household income. This is like crowing about how great it is to be a wage slave. It is a slaver's mentality and too many men have it.

Second, net worth should be a man's goal - not income.

Third, men die younger and more often from work-related accidents than women by FAR! How the FUCK is this a good thing. We need to stop posting shit like this -it's fucking ignorant and toxic. FFS! More work and more responsibility mean NOTHING. It is the OUTCOMES that motivate most reasonable men...

But earning money on the hamster wheel of misery on the fast track to an early death - caused primarily by a FUCKED government contract, the terms and conditions to which are never known until divorce – should NOT be ANYONE”S FUCKING LIFE GOAL!

He also addressed every part of your OP. It seems you just didn't like what he had to say, since he too said that work for its own sake is most emphatically not a good thing.

Again, hell, every reply that I see addressed your central point, and they all did so while also discussing the part about marriage.

Everyone I can see understood you just fine.

You just didn't like the direction the conversation went.

It's especially entertaining to me, because both DD and I have been the beta bucks, money-making mule that the people who write garbage like "mArRiEd MeN eArN mOaR!" want supporting soyciety, and have both woken up, unplugged, and broken free. Our perspectives are easily the most sagacious due to our experiences, yet since what we said was antithetical to what you wanted to see, you dismissed it out of hand, along with every other reply.

Reading is difficult indeed.

@slutmagazine Perhaps. I should clarify that it is not that there is absolutely no motivation for anyone to earn more and more money, but that there is a certain point where earning more money is leading to any real benefit to raising a family. Even outside of that topic, there is a threshold in earnings where earning more money no longer leads to being happier. I think the threshold was around $70,000, but that might be a bit outdated with prices rising with inflation.

Back to families, anyone who is making enough money to provide for their family should not come to the conclusion that they should chase money in order to improve their family. Children can find a lot of happiness playing with carboard boxes, which is an example of how money is not needed for their happiness.

Often, it is the wives of these men who have ever increasing demands for their husbands to earn more. Those women will not be happy regardless, because they will always demand more expensive vacations, a new car every 2 years, a bigger house and remodeling. Not to say that men do not get desires to earn more on their own, but often they fall into the same trap thinking that more money will finally get them happy.

@SeasonedRP @TwoInchesOfShaft If you are earning enough to support a family, there is not a whole lot of additional motivation to try and earn more if you are indeed maintaining a good income to spending ratio. Namely spending less than you earn. Maybe some men might be motivated to change jobs to better their status for their family, but frankly most men would make that same decision as bachelors if the change in work is practical. Being someone who was making decent earnings before I was married, I can say that there was not a whole lot of reasons for me to be making any changes with my work.

What having a family does change in terms of working is being less likely to take major risks in the job market. Married men (especially with children) are not going to take a dive into a new job that is not guaranteed to have marked improvement to their work. You would generally want to front such risks before you have any children in the mix.

@TwoInchesOfShaft

men who are married earn more because they have to. Assuming you make the correct decisions (aka taking risk when necessary) isn’t this a good thing?

Not quite.

It's more like, nose-to-grindstone, working shit tons of hours, and sacrificing everything resembling freedom and fun.

If anything, you take fewer risks because the downsides are catastrophic instead of just inconvenient setbacks. It's easy to suck up some hard times and bounce back when it's just you. Not so easy when people are truly dependent on you.

I don't even have kids. I'm just trying to pay off debt we incurred by being stupid with our money, and stockpile for emergencies and maybe retiring one day.

I make a lot of money, but other than shit talking with you guys on here, I don't really have any hobbies.

That's not a balanced life, and once we reach a few financial goals, I'm stepping back the hours I work and getting back to frequent, regular gym time instead of the once per week if even that, and reading actual books.

Men who remain bachelors don't need much to live and be content. They can work 40 hours per week or even less, and use that time for more fulfilling activities.

Yeah, a lot waste their time with porn and video games, but that's still more fun than working yourself into an early grave.

Thing is, you can do something far more fulfilling than that. The time and opportunities are there.

Marriage is almost nothing but obligations.

Tag to others I know are married or have been in the past: @goodmansaysfuckyou, @lurkerhasarisen, @DeeplyDisturbed, @houseoftolstoy

@houseoftolstoy Now hear me out, Jack Dorsey isn't the main perp in this. He was outed of his own company. I think he realized after he made twitter and it blew up that things were not on the level. I theorize his company was infiltrated by deep state operatives and he was forced into retiring from his own company because it became a handy tool of the leftists playing shadow games.

How did you think Elon made so many perfect moves in a row to do this acquisition? He's weaponized autism but the way they got played like a fiddle was almost too perfect. I think Jack Dorsey was feeding inside info to Elon to help him in a hostile takeover. Remember Jack and Elon are good buds in real life.

Jack's company was taken from him then weaponized but he still had his share and an inside track on the goings on in twitter. Jack is even upset at how his company turned out and in a few interviews wished it went a different way. I think it got out of his control, it was infiltrated and he was pushed out of power so those Indian elitist censorship-fetish freaks could be installed. I also notice he doesn't directly say anything but he hints at a lot of stuff, he's probably afraid of being Epstein'd at all times if they ever figure out he helped Elon (theoretically).