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Resources for (mainly indirect) day game? Thoughts on the method?
I want to get into perfecting my day game and am looking for more content and resources that could help. I skimmed through Roosh's day bang (I plan to finish it later), and read some posts from TRP archive. I don't like mainstream normie pickup approaches to day game, because they all focus on direct game, i.e. going straight up to a woman and complimenting her, its more likely to fail, especially in day game.
I like the way Roosh did it, basically striking up a regular conversation with a woman, and throwing out baits to see if she bites, like making a statement about a topic and seeing if she follows up on it. If she takes the most of your baits then you know she's interested and you can tell her you enjoy talking to her and would like to get coffee sometime, then exchange numbers or social media.
Thoughts? And are there other resources you would recommend?
Nothing I haven't suggested already. I'm still surprised Roosh actually took my advice in seeking out to build for himself a group of solid trustworthy male friends. That the journey would lead someone with a Turkish-Iranian background to join the Christian faith I still can't say was entirely unsurprising, as his writing gave off a profound sense of defeat and mental exhaustion.
Keep developing your communication skills, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
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My ego got hurt at a home party, trying to better myself
I‘ve been invited to this chicks home party for halloween; she wanted to see me and was implying she was dressed up as a sexy vampire and I can be her edward cullen. I got there and I was having fun with my friends, talking to everyone. I was trying to initiate and isloate the given chick (we matched on hinge) and tried to kiss her. She told me she feels like I‘m mad at her and it would be better to see us in that kind of setting for a different time. In my head I knew this is not going to work and I‘d never meet her again. She then proceeded to fuck another guy at the home party after talking to me.
Rationally, I have no idea why I‘m upset. I literally don‘t know her but maybe my expectations that I thought I‘m gonna see her and potentially fuck her made me hurt my ego. I feel like I got cucked for some reason. I literally have lots of women, even made out with her girl friend later in the club and ended up picking another one up I brought home; but I still can‘t shake the feeling off that I got a bit „embarrassed“. I am usually very stoic and these things would never faze me, but it was so in my face that I kinda got pissed off.
Curious about some insight
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
Read MoreDifferent types of sluts and can they be LTR material?
This is something I've been thinking about/observing for a while, and I am looking for other people's perspectives/experiences.
It seems to me that some girls are different type of sluts. (Or maybe I'm just rationalizing)
Some are sluts out of insecurity - usually the ones with anxious attachment style, they are looking for love/affection and emotional connection but are inevitably drawn to avoidant types who turn out to be the wrong choice. These girls look for emotional connection, are very pleasing-oriented with a fear of abandonment, which leads to being unable to set firm boundaries, and will use sex to get men interested. They girls can be very loyal/affectionate inside a relationship with an aloof man who didn't boot them after a single night of fun.
Then there are also the 'psychologically healthy' women who are securely attached but who prioritize fun over everything else. I've heard this being referred to as 'down-for-anything' type of girls. These girls are playing the game too, so to speak. If you look good, are fun, run a little game on them & escalate, they will go home with you. These are girls who experiment for the sake of experimenting. Have multiple simultaneous FWBs. And, I can only imagine, have a hard time staying loyal or even getting into an LTR.
Now the lines between these are blurred somewhat and that's confusing to me. Perhaps they are all psychologically rotten. And on some level, they all want to have fun. Which leaves the question, which is which, and; does it even matter?
My personal problem is I just can't respect sluts. They can be fun, especially to fuck. But to build a life with one and start a family? I can't respect someone who doesn't respect themselves. Who puts themselves at repeated risk of STDs/violence/abuse and more often than not bad sex just for a teeny bit of fun/validation/attention. The thing is - pretty much every urban woman is a slut nowadays, depending on your definition.
I'd like a family and kids, but these women just give me a sinking feeling in my gut the moment I start getting feelings for them. And I know it's not rational per se, although the feeling probably originates from some ancient evolutionary programming. I'd never LTR a girl who I'd think isn't 100% committed to me, but the thought of her having slooted around before me just makes me want to eject immediately, and I've come to the conclusion that managing said stress is just not worth it...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtwiAkUj5Go
Then study the book and keep dating around as you have thus far. Accept that unless she's your daughter, it's unlikely you'll be able to otherwise make a good marriageable woman, and must find the needle in the haystack. So, let the sluts continue to disqualify themselves from selection as they let their psychosis continue to hobble their ability to pair bond.
Read MoreIs it okay that I want only virgins for my future wife? It bothers me so much.
I have slept with women from time to time but only for casual fun (they too and they were all non-virgins).
But when it comes to marriage, I cannot help but want only virgin as my future wife.
I want my future wife as pure as possible.
I sometimes imagine myself being married to a non-virgin, possibly very promiscuous one and I just freak out whenever I think that my precious baby who spent 40 weeks in my wife's womb getting cumcoated all the way along my wife's vagina during the birth, all the cum that my wife had received from numerous men of whose names and faces I even never have heard of or seen. It just feels deeply humiliating and I feel I wouldn't be able to truly love my baby if that's the case. It would feel like my baby is a pseudo-bastard.
I may sound like a paranoid. But I just cannot help.
I also think if I get married to a virgin, the bond would be stronger because my wife would know no men other than me.
Is it okay to have this kind of way of thinking? Seriously, I would just not get married if I have to marry a non-virgin.
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
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Seeking advice on how to save this.
Known her since childhood. Our fathers in business together. Our families were close. First love, lost virginity together, everything simple and good. Then our fathers fought. She left easily and coldly as if it had all meant nothing. Heart fucking torn to shreds.
Discover red pill in my anger phase, hate all women for a while, go back and forth between improving myself and wallowing in depression. End up fucking around 70 women over the next two years, unable to have feelings for any of them.
Reconnected with first girl after two years, regularly hate-fuck her. Offered a relationship in a vulnerable moment. She refused, scared of her family's disapproval of me. Still wanted to fuck me on the sly.
Stupidly got her pregnant on purpose with intent to abandon her for revenge. When she did get pregnant I knew I couldn't and decided I would take care of her for the rest of her life if the child was mine. Told her I wanted nothing to do with her pregnancy or baby until I could see a positive paternity test. Cut contact during the pregnancy. She claimed she hadn’t been with anyone else. Paternity tests are not common here and are associated with trashy people on tv shows. Me withdrawing my emotional and financial investment in her until she got one was a huge blow to her and her family, painting her like being a low class whore. Her family furious at both her and me, she had no real support during the pregnancy or the childbirth. Birth was hard 30 hours and she was alone except for medical staff. Claims the experience changed and traumatized her. When she called to tell me the baby was born, coldly told her I would get involved when the paternity test was done.
Paternity test positive. Moved her into my house. Being a good father. My love for her and our son runs deep. She is an excellent and loving mother. I provide her with stability and a stay at home mom life. Made her life relatively easy and comfortable. We get along. We have good sex. But she is extremely stoic like a man. Bitterness runs beneath the surface. The dread during the pregnancy and birth affected her too much. Hair falling out, way too much weight loss, hollow eyes, not eating or sleeping much, not taking care of herself. The way other women yell and cry and let their feelings out would be a thousand times better than this lingering tension and mistrust.
Fear she’ll leave again, maybe with the child. She’s afraid I’ll do it first. Her family hates me. Were very close to me when I was a kid. Might turn her against me.
How to act? How much alpha attraction, how much compassion/comfort?
Wishing to restore what’s broken, innocence and trust we used to have.
To answer my own question: Will try going 80% alpha strength and 20% beta comfort. Just a guess. Know women more likely to stay with bad man they respect than nice man they don't. Have hunch it would be good to bring on this kind of yelling and crying emotional way that most women act when they are upset. It is cathartic for women to let that out, no? It is better than her putting on a front and bottling up her stress and wasting away, no? Asking other men for more suitable advice. Would not bother posting if I could figure it out on my own. I want to love her. Are women not diabolical if men must hold back the fullness of our love in order to earn their respect?
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
Read MoreI had pulled a girl without trying, she apparently into my looks. I was detached, I kissed her on first hangout (not even a date). but I found her cute asf so I confessed that I'm open for maybe a commitment. and BOOM she started to ghost me lol. Did I just approved of her too soon ? Im trynna learn here fuck her tho, sincerely XD .
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
Read MoreIs it still possible for an overweight guy to be successful with women?
In recent years I felt out of the red pill/manosphere but have recently been reignited and have decided to recommit. The issue is in recent years I have gained a fair amount of weight, I do gym consistently and have a decent amount of muscle, but I’d say I have a layer of blubber around my stomach/chest (I am 5’10, 220lbs and around 25% bf).
This extra weight has definitely affected my confidence when it comes to approaching, so I’m interested to see what the community thinks regarding male weight. I think it will essentially come down to a question of how strong the fat man’s (me) frame is, if he is confident enough and practice the correct techniques he should still be successful. However there is also the truth that fat is not as attractive as ripped, and would be interested to see how the community views it
After you put together a diet and exercise plan to help you shed those unwanted pounds, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
Read MoreWhat causes women to ghost a "High value male"?
For context — I’m 6'2, fit, make close to seven figures, drive a supercar, own my house, and I’m often told I'm handsome (can verify all of this if it sounds like BS). I get that all of that’s superficial, but it’s what women typically say they want in an “ideal man.”
Still, I’ve got dozens of texts (unprovoked) from girls saying they had an amazing date and wanted to see me again… only to ghost or cancel right after making plans.
It’s not like I’m retarded socially or talk politics — first dates are light, fun, and easy.
I’ve even had one girl (later found out she was bipolar) confirm second date, then disappear the next day.
I don’t get it. Intimidation seems too easy an answer — and I doubt most of these women are meeting guys who check more boxes.
That thinking is entirely dependent on the assumption modern women are working down the same exact checklist you are. Unfortunately, while females are generally understood to make terrible decisions, with what you've said over the years it might be time for you to actually consider that they maybe seeking radically different criteria than yourself.
While you may possess traits many men may otherwise see as good, it doesn't necessarily mean modern females in our spiritually demoralized-spiritually lobotomized society will see the man you are as embodying the ideals they've been indoctrinated to seek. Being malleable, or easy to manipulate, is something modern women are encouraged to seek in all men, whether high value or not, and that's one of many traits you seem to lack.
Unfortunately, the traits seen as ideal for modern women to seek in men are some red pill men are actively discouraged from developing, if not abandoning should they realize they have them. This is why so many commenters in RP aware circles encourage hedonism, it distracts you from engaging in any critical analysis necessary to understand the evil of clown world and who rules it. A man who seeks the truth is the most dangerous in a society that openly peddles lies to obscure the truth from sight. Eventually, you will understand this, and come to see gatekeepers as obstacles to be hurdled, or destroyed, if not actively ignored as they are nothing more than the half-witted agents of the diabolical.
Read MoreCopenhagen vs Munich vs Vienna vs Dublin vs London
Which do you reckon would be the best dating life long term, to ideally also find a wife? This is considering if you had to choose between each of these cities to relocate to for better career options as a EU passport holder. I know neither are the best for dating necessarily, but I have to do it for the money career wise to level myself up financially, and since they all have pretty much similar high-level offers, the choice boils down to life outside of work. Right now, I live in a Mediterranean country in Europe but find the career prospects to be quite low and I narrowed it down to these cities in terms of job opportunity. But I also want to balance it out in terms of life outside of work because not everything is about money. Any experiences in these cities from your side?
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
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