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For me anyway there is just an obvious form of resistance on some benign form of escalation
Like I'll be like "I'm going to grab some water if you want to join" and they say "I'm good" or some bullshit
That's usually the first crack in the wall. Or they will just very clearly start not following the program, refuse an invite to a public party etc
Or their actions and words regarding you specifically just don't align before you've even made a move
They often give away the game early if you're attentive to it
I've tried it in various forms and they still play that game
This doesn't stop their games. If anything it inflates their efforts in trying to get you to sexualize them, to the point I've had more than one of these man eaters begging for it.
Left them high and dry to go fuck women 2-3 points lower on the HB scale every single time.
Multitude of reasons but the main two being, the game is over if I hit, these other women were way less hassle and a lot more likely to be plated.
This was also in my early 20s. Couldn't imagine entertaining these style of games now.
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I like your idea though I've tried it in various forms and they still play that game
Once they have decided they get more satisfaction from liking you but denying you permanently the only effective response is to ghost
I have plenty of other eye candy and I won't settle for eye candy that if gives me the cold shoulder etc
I just leave them behind completely I just have seen it be unworthy of my time
The girl i posted about it is definitely behind me now because I clearly for whatever reason immediately got removed from the IOI category into being ignored. Maybe I look like her ex or a former ONS who knows, her trauma and hamster isn't my problem
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The only real way I've found to invest energy into these types of girls and come out ahead is to flip the script.
Invite them out to events, but make sure she knows it's just as friends. Give her the dance, then walk away. Flirt with her but in a joking manner. No sexual undertone. No sexual energy. After all that’s what she expects.
This is quite genius. Reminds me a lot of the shit OmLaLa used to pull. Maybe I should experiment more with this kind of shit
The types of women you're describing get off on being a tease and while I can't fully rationalize it myself, the closest I've come;
They get the benfits of being seen with, being courted by and just the over all fun/experience of a top tier male without the side effect of opening their legs.
On top of that, they're probably aware, we're all sexual deviants making this her way of playing the players.
It's odd to us because we'd expect similar behavior from her for free meals from Beta Bucks Billy, but how dare she do it to Chads.
The only real way I've found to invest energy into these types of girls and come out ahead is to flip the script.
Invite them out to events, but make sure she knows it's just as friends. Give her the dance, then walk away. Flirt with her but in a joking manner. No sexual undertone. No sexual energy. After all that’s what she expects.
At worst I end up with beautiful eye candy that can be used for pre-selection or she buzzes off on her own.
At best they're normally good for a ONS but at that point, if they're that good looking, I'd rather keep up the song and dance, not fucking them.
Some of my most reliable wing men were these types of women and doubt if the majority caught on to the game I was playing.
Though there was one stripper that stood out. Me and my boy both instinctively played the we're not sexually interested card and she knew it. Interesting gal.
She'd feed us pussy and we'd feed her betas to devour. What a beautiful year that was.
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LTR of 5 years - Haven’t talked in 3+ weeks
Need some advice here. I said something rude to my LTR of 5 years about 4 weeks ago. I didn’t realize it hurt her and she brought it up a few days later. I see now this was probably a shit test and I took it way too seriously, you live and learn. I called her, listened, apologized and have been trying to move on since then. Looking back I DEER’d a bit too much during the convo but overall I thought it went fine for the most part. I didn’t lose frame too much, I tried to keep it brief, own it sincerely, and then moved on.
Anyways she’s all pissed about it still, feels like my apology wasn’t real, and we haven’t been talking in 3+ weeks now. So far I’ve been just going about doing my own thing, STFU and working towards my goals - lifting, work, hobbies, etc. Every 4-5 days I’ve been inviting her to go do something to try and get things going again. Simple invites like “I’m thinking of hiking here at x time, you wanna come?” I’ve been keeping the convos light and brief. Everything’s been getting shut down and no effort from her to fix, talk, or meet up about anything. Kind of at a loss to what I should do now, I mean 5 years is a long time to be together so I don’t want to really call it quits. But if it comes to that, it is what it is and I’m prepared mentally it could break.
My plan right now is to go total no contact until she reaches out to make something happen. This might break things completely but I don’t see another option that doesn’t come across as needy.
Any other suggestions here? I see my only options as: total no contact until she reaches out to make something happen. Literally go show up at her door and get this shit over with (beta but at least it gets sorted out). Or somewhere in the middle, like texting her something like, “when you’re ready to talk or see each other let me know”.
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Right and agreed
I never forget Malardcove's "you're not her top option"
It's my favorite post of all time
It's so true it stings at times if you ignore it
You can just tell when they are so down they can't help it. Anything less feels like a self own and some times you can't help your ego
That post is undefeated. Luckily i next these hoes fast
@Vermillion-Rx Oh yeah I don't really take these things to heart. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
"Outplayed" more in the sense that they laid a trap, and I walked right into it without spotting it.
But with the benefit of hindsight, you spot the signs, see where you went wrong, and your game gets better for next time.
Hence I don't see it as a failure, more as a game.
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