Thanks to @Vermillion for finding this thread. He’s a screenshot from a discussion. https://imgur.com/a/wUikm9q

“I see this so much with my daughter and her friends too. Even the young women who yearn to be wives and homemakers and not so set on a career have problems finding any suitable men. It’s sad.”

Women are told many lies, but a damaging one often comes from well-meaning men who tell young women that, to escape feminist hell, they should try to act like it’s the 1950’s and getting wifed up by a nice^H^H^H^Hgood guy while she’s still young.

Not to say this is impossible, mind you, and that if a woman is going to go this route, doing it in her youth gives her the best chance. Certainly, when I was young and naive at that age, I might have fallen for such a woman if she had appeared on my radar.

The problem is that it’s not economically feasible for most. Consider what us men are told: A plethora of high paying jobs, inexpensive education, and the ability to make lame approaches to women and get lauded for doing so are over. We are told that those “easy days” are behind us and we have to work harder… for less!

Historical romanticism is not new to our era and many people fall for idealized notions of the past that even those still living today from that era believe if asked. I’m reminded of Winston, in the book 1984, attempts to get historical knowledge from a “Prole” about whether The Party’s narrative is correct:

“’Yes,' he said. 'They [capitalists] liked you to touch your cap to 'em. It showed respect, like. I didn't agree with it, myself, but I done it often enough. Had to, as you might say.’”

He then launches into this long story that never happened about a “capitalist” shoving him as if it was a memory.

Here’s the thing: It’s my understanding that few people were educated or had comfy office work back a century ago. Most people worked in the fields or at factories. A housewife living in a single family home with a husband able to support her on one income was a luxury usually for executives and this is why many men developed a pride if they could “afford” it in post WWII USA when Europe lay in ruins and the USA was basically like China producing cars, appliances, and other goods for the whole world.

This was also due to (gasp!) sexist traditions where men were given promotions and higher pay to be able to afford to do so. In some cases, businesses balked because they wanted to hire women in order to save money but social pressure prohibited them from doing so.

It was possible back then for an 18 year old man to get a “Union Card” and earn enough to start a family back then or at least get on that path while living with his family and his wife moves in and the grandparents look after the kids while the wife went to work after a year or two to wait tables or factory work to help make ends meet.

In some cases, where the family didn’t have the money or time to help support a young family, the housewife would be stuck in a small apartment, by herself, struggling to look after the newborn infant. Without a car and modern appliances, they struggled.

My grandmother, a saint in my eyes, founded a Polish church charity “New Mothers”, where Polish women went to the homes of these young mothers to help them with childcare, cooking, and such while she recovered and the husband was at work 12 hours a day in the factory or mines.

Note that back then, fancy weddings, diamond rings, and lavish dinner dates were laughable. Courtship was a “coffee date” or Vanilla Cokes at the local drugstore.

THAT WAS WHAT LIFE REALLY WAS LIKE BACK THEN!!!

So for young women to say: “Well, if I just declare I want to reject feminism and wait for a decent looking guy to ask me out on a paid date and have a family by age 21” is unrealistic in many cases, sadly.

Not impossible though. My landlord back 30 years ago had a plump daughter who fell for a handsome looking (to her) working class guy and they helped pay for him to go to plumbing school and he got licensed and that was good money for them and she was happy.

In other words, women and their parents who SUPPORTED a promising young man was rewarded with that lifestyle. “Meeting him at the finish line” was a rarity.

Also, there was a culture that tolerated normal men making clumsy approaches to women and women had more reasonable standards. My wife, a traditional woman, viewed my relative ugliness as an asset “No other woman will look at him so I’m safe!” This is NOT the mindset of many even “traditionalist” modern women. (It helped me a LOT when my former high school flames at a reunion flirted with me and my wife was jealous for a good few months after that!)

If there are women reading this and want to help others, it’s possible, heck even relatively easy, to break out of this mess but it’s not going be falling off of a log like it was in the 1950’s: You’re going to have to (gasp!) make an EFFORT. Learn how to approach men and yes, women a century ago knew how to find out what a man was interested in and strike up a conversation with him. Use family and friend’s social networks. Yes, even church but note that the young, promising men in church will get grabbed quickly. My niece met her husband in college while going to church there. She’s no looker but she didn’t play games.

Hmm, it’s a good time to pause and reflect on what “games” mean: In the old days, “games” for women meant like for men today: With a goal to “catch a fish” so speak. They didn’t emotionally manipulate men for fun or to make him work harder, but to hook and grab him ASAP.

My maternal grandmother out of a family of 8 kids saw an older sister reject a suitor so she grabbed him. She chatted with him during visits and made herself interesting and likable. She smiled and was fun. She steered the conversation to family matters and such but without being obvious or forceful. In other words, she had social skills and “emotional maturity.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArlY8EKc8Vw

One of my favorite movie scenes is this one from Other People’s Money where “Larry the Liquidator” gives a solid dose of redpill reality: “It was dead when I got here!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q

Ironically, the 1950’s housewife lifestyle was killed by what is killing many jobs for men: automation. The “labor saving appliances” of the 1950’s were unwieldy by modern standards but predicted an era of bored women looking to enter the workplace and “make as much as a man” (but then expect men to pay the bills anyway).

There were vacuum cleaners so that women didn’t have to drag rugs out of the home and beat them with a broom to knock out dust. The dishwasher is amazing. I honestly enjoy filling and emptying it just as Bill Gates and his (then) wife fought for the “chore”. 5 minutes of zombie work a day to free my mind compared to a good half hour or more of “dish soaked hands”. You can microwave leftovers instead of having to put them into separate pots, heat them on the stove, and then clean those reheat pots. And so on.

I had an ex crazy redhead MILF girlfriend from that era who got prescribed “Kurban” (I think) which was basically either quaaludes or perhaps opium because they were BORED!!!! When I was a Gen-X kid and DARED to tell my parents I was “bored”, they’d UNBORE me with CHORES!!!

I recall my mother in the 1970’s had a LOT of time to watch “soap operas” and gossip with the local neighbors. The OPPRESSION. She did have a part-time and sometimes full-time work when she could find it as a secretary or receptionist.

The Rolling Stones had a hit about the era (referral from the redhead MILF) “Mother’s Little Helper”

“It’s a drag getting old…” https://youtu.be/x-zxBNz3XbM

I’m at an age now where I feel like I have a DeLorean time machine: I have seen the collapse of the 1950’s utopianism, to the golden era of Career Women marrying Boomer Guys, to the decline since the 1990’s:

https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E

Note that, according to Jetson’s canon, George worked 1 hour a day for 3 days a week and Jane told him to complain he was being slavedriven!

I chuckle how this contrasts to The Flintstones where working class Fred has a less civilized relationship with his wife but yet has a good job that provides for her along with a home full of automated conveniences for her to either drink wine, gossip, or cheat.

https://youtu.be/XeZ2JJRP_8I

So, in conclusion, even if the feminists hadn’t killed and peed on the corpse of housewifery, those days would have ended anyway. I chuckle that back in women’s lib and until recently, feminists shrieked “They’re trying to bring us back to the 1950’s!!!!” but yet, they can’t go back even if they wanted to which many now do.

Sorry. Truly.