@aweawea_ a I hear you, man. Sometimes shit feels pointless but it's your life. It's the only one you got so you gotta make the most of it.

Your sexual hang up's are all mental. You can go through therapy or work through it with self reflection and meditation.

You should also have or strive to have a passion or purpose in life. Some never find it but once you do your outlook will improve.

Your family and friends aren't you. When you realize that, you'll be alone for a bit but push past that. We're all alone and connected at the same time.

Hard to explain.

Finally, approaching is an art. Some have a skill, some have looks that help but you need to crash and burn many, many times before you can soar.

Go MGTOW if that's what you want but be honest with yourself and don't do it because that's all that's left and you've given up.

@firmware_pimp You're right. I don't have a solution and my way of talking does come across as abrasive or satirical at times.

We function as a society and as we're in what's arguably a democracy, the majority rule can result in nonsense as people gravitate towards the easy.

For all my joking around, I do like the fact that we're talking.

I don't have any negative opinions on anyone but I also don't think that having an argument with sticking points from propaganda machine A is conductive.

It's the same reason I don't bother arguing with SJW.

Lately, I've noticed that I have withdrawn further from people as the groups of people who can take criticism and be objective has diminished.

Everything is so polarizing that to be in the middle is to be left out.

It also doesn't help that there's so much going on in the background that both sides are deliberately ignoring because to confront it is to question one's self.

Finally, some of the shit that I believe does come across as sexist or racist but it's grounded on reason and isn't something that I personally believe takes away from people.

I like the idea of people working through life aware of its reality instead of by virtue of birth.

Since everything is so charged, that's hard to identify these days.

It reminds me of when I was young and went to storm front and saw a 50 page debate on a forum regarding who is the most white.

That shit was depressing and I'm seeing more of that these days from people buying into that bullshit and thinking they are owed a job because they're black or having to feel bad because they're white.

It may be naïve but I remember when you can use racial slurs to your friends because no one cared.

@DeathSaint I like this. Thanks. Most succinct answer I got. And I don't disagree with you on the shit hand that white men are getting. So, walk me through how this loss is made into a win when the options are leave to another part of a sinking ship, pray it gets better or die. That's the part that I want to know most.

Follow up. If you are aware that there are groups behind the scenes that are moving the pieces, at what point do you think that you're actions have an impact or merit.

What's the play?

All I see are guys sending each other posts from whatever propaganda is your taste. Everyone high fives each other about how right leaning they are. Rinse and repeat.

I'm of the mindset that I may as well play a fiddle as it all burns then rebuild but I'm open to different possibilities.

So let's push past level 2.

What's that look like? We're moving towards further restrictions, there's more new genders than pages in a book, everything is sexist, everything is racist, the world is melting yesterday, media is telling me that I am a monster constantly and Zack is trying to suck my virtual cock.

How does one following the current down to the fucking waterfall not just survive but thrive?

I don't know you from Adam and while you guys have been saying all sorts of things, I don't think less or more than any of you.

@destraht No, don't do that. Don't call me names and give me the silent treatment. You're not a menstruating. Your feelings don't need to be hurt. You don't need to give me tokens like some passive aggressive house wife.

I'm sorry. Tell me, "right now" about your solution to the current state of affairs. If not for me then for all the young men that look up to you. What's this solution you've got cooking up? What's the problem, exactly? What does it cost? What does it look like? Who's going to action it? Details.

Also, how do you know your reality is objective if anything that challenges it is ostracized? What part of your current belief doesn't align just right? Can you accept the possibility that there's vested interest groups that are play both sides or is that such a foreign concept?

See, I may be wrong but I always thought that Red Pill is about accepting the truth - no matter how shitty it is. Feelings be damned. I'm seeing people here are chewing those pills instead of taking that extra step to swallow the medicine.

Like @Antelope isn't wrong. I think the kid's right. He comes across as someone that I wouldn't let hold sharp scissors let alone buy a beer, but when he's right...Blacks do create a whole lot of issues for themselves. I can put a gun in your hand and make you angry enough to shoot, but I can't make you fire. That's why I don't buy this whole affirmative action.

You can normally tell a lot about how much someone's put thought into something by how defensive they are when challenged. I'm open to learning your solution but I still need you to provide a clear problem, a tangible solution, and a time frame for it to take place.

You think I'm a liberal (for whatever reason). Sure. Don't care. But tell me what you think the solution is and how it's going to actioned off.

Do we storm the White House? Repeat the reign of terror? Build a republic? How does that work? Who is going to start it?

How does democracy work when the majority don't care or don't go against the grain? How does that play out? What's the end goal? Who wins? Who losses? What does it cost? Can it be a flawed plan?

How are you guys sharing clippings from the propaganda machine that's spewing out nonsense left and right, doing anything to resolve the circumstances? How much do you trust the sources you get? Is there a possibility that the integrity of what you are fed isn't legitimate? How do you know?

Because if you can't answer these simple questions then why preach it?

This is an open question to anyone reading this that's 'fighting the fight'.

It's no different than a bunch of spinsters collecting fitness magazines while eating at McDonald's and making plans about all the weight you're losing by eating the low fat options. Kinda missing the whole point that you're still in the fucking McDonald's and nothing is changing.

Just one giant circle jerk.

See, you, and anyone reading this is capable of taking constructive criticism. We're all here because this is a forum for men to talk and learn and expand. Right? I'm not any better than you or anyone else reading this. I was born. I make mistakes. I will learn. I will die. I will be forgotten. Just like you. Just like the reader.

But maybe you're right. Maybe this is a lost cause. Too much of your identity is set on your beliefs and there's no point to discuss. In which case, we'll part ways and you can play any fiction you want. Hell, you can say that I'm really Bernie Sanders if that helps.

@destraht Fuck it. I'll bite. I'm always open to learn new shit. I reject the premise that whites "know how to do things correctly" because of how vague that sentence is and it's implications. Which whites? What things? Do we live in a closed system where other capable parties aren't introduced? I don't know. It seems like a hollow statement like "Black lives matter". So yea. I reject that premise on the assertion that giving someone a gold star by virtue of birth is pointless.

I follow up with the fact that there is a differences between races. That part, seems like everyone agrees on. Good. I mention that there's an underlying genetic portion of that. Fine. No debate there but then I assert that there's also a social/economic factor.

Now, I'm a liberal and NPC again. Because I'm not a communist that believes that we're all socially and economically equal. Being born in a shitty area, with poor parents, with fucking shit options for schooling and debt apparently isn't a thing in the world. Alright...

So, let's recap.

The premise:

Whites are in positions of power and provide stability (we're really stable right now as well, apparently). They're leaving to go somewhere else and taking those skills and stability elsewhere. No one with the similar skills is able to fill that huge burden. Like at all. We've got incompetent minorities that are flooding these areas. These minorities just exist. No other factor save genetic (that's what we all seem to agree on) is responsible for the lack of aptitude.

If this outlook is true then affirmative action is correct (it's not) , blacks need to be protected and brought up to speed (they don't).

I point out that this is just a side of propaganda and scare mongering while at the same time drawing a line in the sand saying there are differences and that white people are increasingly being marginalized by the left.

I get called a fagot, liberal, NPC.

Go over to twitter.

Write that white people are in a position of power and there's going to be a lack of stability when they leave to go 'elsewhere'. Let's say Canada because. We need to fill those vacancies but probably not with whites since they're all leaving for Noah's ark. So, to prevent this collapse, let's bring in minorities to fill these roles. These minorities are lacking because of white oppression since apparently, again, whites are indeed in a position of power and inequality is a direct result of that. So, let's elevate these minorities through scholarships, cash outs, reoperations, affirmative action, etc.

Now, I get a twitter checkmark. SJW, BLM, cucks and feminist are high fiving me as a chosen paragon of wisdom and virtue.

Despite that on the fucking surface it's the same argument you're making.

This reminds me of the arguments people would have about Hilary and Trump. Both are shifty fucks that don't give a single fuck about the people who they've got voting. Hilary farted and it was empowering to feminists and Trumps tweets were on par with Aristotle. Meanwhile, if one was to step back. They'd see that no matter who they voted for, they would've been fucked in the ass.

But no. Media's done a great job and pushing polarizing propaganda.

Affirmative action is fucking nonsense. BLM is nonsense. This white man's burden/privilege is fucking nonsense.

I see the same thing happening with women and feminism. They say that they're equal to men when they're not. If women are equal then have them compete in the UFC with men or any other sport. Let's level the field. If you say there's a wage gap, then let's look at the factors that lead up to it. Is it really that your breasts are keeping your wage low or is it things like the field of study you have, the hours you work, your aptitude and focus, your qualifications and ability to negotiate a salary. What's this? None of these things are a factor? Shocking.

Also, I don't have a fucking solution. I never proposed a solution. There is none. The fire needs to burn itself out.

The thing is that in order for a solution to present itself, there needs to be a buy in from the majority. Being strong, and moving isn't going to do anything. I'm still having a hard time with that. What are you guys fighting? Exactly? How do you fight? Exactly? Let me stockpile on ammunition, hit the gym a few extra hours, stock on rice and prepare for what?

Walk me through this fight? What does it look like? Do, I refuse to wear a mask in public and yell at the security guard that's paid to tell me to confirm? Do, I wait for a revolution like what happened in the White House when Trump stepped down? What changed? Or, do I take the brave step and move to another location that's more preferable as if we're not all on the Titanic and you just moved to another part of the ship?

I'm curious. Aside from these posts that stoke outrage and this giant circle jerk. I'd like to know how this solution is actioned off.

OP was talking about shooting people who have fallen into the otherside camp. That's not a solution. That's not even a fucking fight.

The players behind this shit don't give a fuck about you, your skin tone, or beliefs and have a vested interest in people escalating this increasing nonsensical polarization since they're profiting from the fallout.

So, grab that Glock 19 on your Bible, kiss that American flag waving behind you, and call me a fag liberal for drinking the Kool-Aid then give me all your bookmarked statistics from your propaganda machine of choice, tell me that your cause is just and righteous and walk me through your 10 steps to an enlightened civilization.

Because I'd like to see (aside from moving) what this "hard fight" looks like and how it's going to be won. Maybe I'll learn a new thing.