@Saltycroc

Should I pay for the date?

I don't want to be that beta/provider guy who pays for the date and provides for the woman, and then ends up having to go on 3-4 dates before actually fucking.

But at the same time I don't want to be the pussy who insists on splitting it 50/50, I just feel like that makes you seem like a pretty weak person.

This isn't just about paying for a date, but more about how much should you actually provide in a relationship?

If you think a date makes a relationship, then you've probably not been on many, so I suggest you start your education. Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

That out of the way, you're not the girls father. It's not your responsibility to feed them. The only thing you're obliged to do with a date is bring them home as safely as when you picked them up. On that point, you really don't have a choice. You don't want to get a visit from the police, because the only information that have led them to conclude you're the last person to see the girl.

Understanding dating, doesn't mean you need to do it yourself though. Do as the sodomites do. Download the latest hookup app, study up on how to employ game on your smartphone, put together an appealing profile, and get to work.

@TheRedPike

At the time most of the world agreed with the "righteous moral stature" of it.

Only those who took the Official Party Line at face value, and lacked the will to study the matter even a little bit. That time, the Administration and media mouthpieces were unanimous and insistent on the "fact" that "Saddam has WMDs.

This time, numerous credible sources even within Trump's own inner circle are unanimously insisting "Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2002 and we have exactly zero evidence that they even want nuclear weapons, much less are actively working toward that goal." Without offering even a scintilla of evidence, Trump keeps brushing them off with "They don't know what they are talking about!!!

At some point, even diehard MAGA fans are going to find themselves having to claim they were against this war all along, and never actually liked much less believed Trump.

@GetMoreBooks

First Approach at 30

Field Report Last Post: www.forums.red/p/asktrp/323965/30_y_o_beginner_with_some_questions

Learning Game from Day Bang. Only read up to the part where he talked about eliminating approach anxiety. Next section said "After a few dozen approaches", so I decided to get out there and approach.

Hey y’all, been making good progress since my last post. Continued losing weight(still ways to go to not be overweight) , been lifting 3x a week, joined social groups(kickball, community theatre as a set helper). Been talking to more people to work on my social skills. Stopped watching porn and playing games.

Stuff I’m still working on: Still no luck getting a job in my field. Think I might just go be a server for awhile until I can find an entry level position in my field. Still living with parents, won’t be able to financially move out for 18 more months if I get a minimum wage job so I can build up emergency fund.

I approached for the first time in my life at 30, looking for feedback.

1st Approach: Said I like a girls shirt in passing, she wasn’t looking at me, glanced and made eye contact with me, then looked away after she realized I was talking to her. We were walking in opposite directions and I had no idea what I was doing, so I just kept walking. My question is how do you talk to women you see on the street? Do you just walk up to them and say how’s the weather?

Where I could have improved: I don’t think approaching on the street is going to work for me, I don’t think I’m handsome enough. I should probably avoid this if there’s no strong IOIs.

2nd Approach: In a bookstore, there were two girls browsing some books. Took a minute before I worked up the courage, and then I walked up to them and asked if they had found anything interesting. We chatted about some old mini books they had, then I complimented the girl I was interested in dress. She kinda just froze and looked at me, and then smiled and said thanks. I wasn’t sure where to go from here, told them to have a good one and went back to browsing.

How I think I could have done better: Maybe talk some more about books I’ve read lately, honestly not sure how I could have saved this one. She seemed responsive but the friend seemed like I was a bother.

3rd approach, most positive response and most attractive:I was browsing at the same bookstore, and this hottie was walking by and I said I like your tattoo. She responded really positively. I asked if it was of a certain forest( it was some trees) and she said no it was her first tattoo. I then complemented a certain aspect of the tattoo, and she said thanks. Again, I wasn’t sure what to do next so I complimented her earrings, and she said thanks, smiled, and then walked away. Really beating myself up on this one since she seemed to actually respond well but I fumbled hard.

Where I could have improved: After the tattoo compliment I could have just asked for her number or if she was free to grab a cup of coffee.

Overall Self Analysis: Happy I approached despite how botched the attempts were. It seems like the only way I know how to show interest is to compliment them and then I don’t know what to do. I think I’ll keep working on talking to strangers and having conversations with them. How do I show interest besides complimenting them? I think maybe I could ask them how their day is going? Also, is it normal to feel weird both before and after approaching? I felt like I was out of place/shouldn't be trying. Any feedback appreciated.

Congratulations on mustering the courage to talk to females. Study the book and keep at it. You can only get better.