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Stigma
24m ago  The Hub

@adam-l

Hitler's obsession was against Marxists (which he conflated with Jews), and he specifically declared that they had nothing to do with these kind of socialists.

Now, I’m not talking to the veracity of his claims, but in Mein Kampf, Hitler talks at length about the Bolshevik’s influence on the German war effort during WW1.

Now if you think there’s anything in the historical claims of the Bolshevik revolution actually being a Jewish revolution, then the tantalising thread would be the jews subsequently demoralising Germany, pushing the culture of the Weimar Republic and even negotiated the treaty of Versailles between themselves.

I digress slightly, but the throughline is that Marxists are a jewish ideology. Again, I don’t make any claims of my own as to the veracity of the truth in that.

Anyway, all that being said, I figure a revulsion reaction to “socialism” is a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon of Americans. I don’t mean that in an antagonistic sense, just that I find Americans the most difficult to have a pragmatic or even utilitarian discussion on socialist policy. I can’t even propose it to them with an ethnic agenda!

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Stigma
55m ago  The Hub

@woodsmoke

The fact they were the nationalist variety doesn't change that.

You really think so? To be accurate they were ethno nationalist, a focus on the German people.

My big gripe with socialism is the free care packages for the people of the world.

A state for its people seems quite appealing, if you ask me!

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Stigma
58m ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS Such a fantastic album, and the film is pretty good as far as I remember too. It’s been a while.

I remember the overbearing mother figure that blends with the hell of the bombers overhead.

Consequently, check out the live (pulse tour) rendition of comfortably numb. Gilmour rips a solo that is transcendent in my humble opinion.

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MentORPHEUS
5h ago  The Hub

Empty Spaces from the movie Pink Floyd, The Wall. The opening flowers scene is a Red Pill statement unto itself. The overall theme regards humans in a world of limitless consumer excess of ability to accumulate literally any material good, yet still in their deepest core feeling profoundly unhappy.

When this movie came out, my Dad took the whole family to see it in the theater. As a young teen, I knew some Pink Floyd music, but the themes and images herein were a real mind fuck that I was not quite prepared for.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpR0oBOKWQ

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Farang131
9h ago  The Hub

@DeathThroughTears I love that. Funny line.

    

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SwarmShawarma
14h ago  The Hub

@woodsmoke hence I didn't want to enter this discussion and I'm not that much of the definition geeek and attaching NSDAP allegiance to one side or the other is now like pulling the line by 2 teams.

For me personally right wing is nationalism but also meritocracy. Meritocracy is more of a unicorn.

Socialism is redistributing goods, but that also is a unicorn. There was an idea that was and is used to buy votes.

Plenty | all | most is useful idiots serving those that polarise.

Elections » 4-5years

Nothing in this period ofvtime ever really changes even if its absolute guano.

I would like to see an experiment with real time votes over the closed network from home. E.g. election » party x wins » they can be removed from function if 60% wants them gone if 75% eligible population votes.

One could argue, only working people, no women, only service people... Won't happen any time.

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adam-l
14h ago  The Hub

@woodsmoke what does "socialist" mean for you?

    

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woodsmoke
15h ago  The Hub

@adam-l

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he doesn't exist."

The second greatest was socialists convincing the world the Nazis were right wing.

They were socialists. In name, in practice, in every quantifiable and qualitative sense that matters. The fact they were the nationalist variety doesn't change that.

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adam-l
15h ago  The Hub

@SwarmShawarma

Im long lost about where do you place NSDAP. NATIONALIST yes, socialist also yes?

Far right, simple as that.

By "socialist" they refered to their own nationals, and populist measures were basically fattening the pigs before the slaughter. Hitler's obsession was against Marxists (which he conflated with Jews), and he specifically declared that they had nothing to do with these kind of socialists.

AFAIK there was a more "anticapitalist" faction within the Nazi party, (populist rather than socialist, though) and these were exterminated by Hitler early on. But I'm not much of a history buff, someone else might fill in the specifics.

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Vermillion-Rx
16h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

Can't help but notice the enshittification of businesses and services in the last 10 years and especially after COVID

Most employees are just paid daycare babies who produce 20% of the productivity that could be handled by fewer overachievers who could be paid higher for doing 80% of the work.

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