@Typo-MAGAshiv I'm too drunk to reply rn but have some vcards.
0.409304@Bozza Before third party payors got involved, health care wasn't super expensive. The hypotheticals you put out didn't happen. Some people lived in areas without nearby doctors (because doctors didn't make huge compensation, so no financial incentive to become one), but people were never dying in the streets.
@Bozza dude, back before government interference and meddling caused costs to skyrocket and the necessity of insurance and HMOs, American citizens used to pay doctors out of pocket. A modest fee would cover a house call.
Doctors haven't done house calls since I was a small child, and they were rare even back then.
Our shit's expensive because of government, and the solution sure as shit isn't "moar government!".
It's almost like they've deliberately made it suck so that people would adopt attitudes similar to yours, and say "we should just have the government handle everything! Because they've been totally competent at everything they've ever done!"
Oh, wait, that's exactly what they did.
And your emotional plea doesn't change the fact that government interference isn't the answer. It'll make things worse.
Just look at how bad your health system is, and Canada's. The wait time for anything is ridiculous.
People leave countries with nationalized healthcare to come to the US and use ours, even as bad as ours has become. That should tell you something.
Read More@Bozza I think that socialist and capitalist are really a bit 20th century. They were part of a class struggle that is over now. The socialists largely won the moral argument and their views became the accepted moral views of the establishment. This was not because they were right about notions of universal equality but in fact was because they stood for the working man who was the crucial foundation of capitalist prosperity.
Capitalism did not work without the worker and so it was fair that the worker was compensated. Then socialism got on top and the doctrine of universal equality took it to places its founders had never imagined. Socialism tried to make people who were not contributors equal to those who were, it even tried to make those who were not in the group equal to those in the group. Socialists were now burdening the worker, the contributor, unfairly not rewarding him. The worker was returning to where he started -working for the big state and not seeing a fair share.
Mean time there was an computer revolution. Less skilled jobs were being mechanised, some middle class gate keeper jobs were also under threat. The world that gave socialism its power is crumbling.
Something new is needed.
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