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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@MentORPHEUS

I suspect this represents the outcome of various PUA and Manosphere figures one upping each other into a hyperbolic extreme.

That's exactly what it is.

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MentORPHEUS
12h ago  The Hub

@FrancoAP

50 girls before marriage.

I suspect this represents the outcome of various PUA and Manosphere figures one upping each other into a hyperbolic extreme. The real advice for young men today, goes Don't MARRY the first woman you sleep with!
If that ever served the interests of men, it became obsolete by around the late 50s.. There exist edge cases and exceptions, but odds run hard against lucking a bona-fide Unicorn into your bed the first time out. It takes experience and reps to learn that Unicorns don't exist, then to replace naive idealism with a SMP version of Realpolitik. Yes, LTRs hold advantages over hookup culture. But, the counterpoint to this for a young man who aspires to the Marriage and Family life, faces a distinct disadvantage in the marriage marketplace if he passes 25 with just 1 or 2 LTR notches in his bed post. Divorce laws as they stand, make the stakes dangerously high, selecting a wife candidate with more blind trust than actual experience.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
20h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@FrancoAP

teeling other guys to focus on getting the money before them girls,

Bad advice.

Men should practice game as soon as they learn about it because nothing teaches and hones skill like experience.

All the manosphere dudes who say shit like "don't date until you're 30" or "don't date until you make [arbitrary yearly income]" or other such crap are setting men up for failure.

Because if you're 30, have your finances in order, but zero experience with women, guess what that makes you?

Easy pickings for Epiphany Phase women who have "had their fun" and are "ready to settle down" with a beta bucks.

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Reply To amanef - Relationship of 8 months
She's 24, I'm 26, we've been together for 8 months now. When I don't feel like she's doing what I want I become sad/ disappointed. It' totally not outcome independence....... [more]

GeorgeIII
6h ago 2026-07-07 08:21:04 Ask TRP Forum

This post makes me… sad.

OP, you wrote all this detail in this post, and the blog that @Typo-MAGAshiv found. And you still say you want to move her in with you.

I get that you’ve read Rian Stone, MRP, and the sidebar. What on earth are you doing? It reads like you have only a shallow, academic understanding of those things. So many key lessons and tropes in your text, besides Bitch Management by HumanSockPuppet.

What keeps her in line in the relationship is dread (Rian Stone). Dread is when she fears losing you. The way you are running things, she can do anything she wants and will not lose you (bad or lack of sex, use your money, fuck other guys). Therefore, no/shitty physical intimacy.

NEVER move a girl in to your house (unless marriage is imminent and on YOUR terms). You will only reduce the amount of sex you get, while being unable to kick her out if she causes bullshit. You are promoting her into your exclusive sex dealer, and she isn’t even a good dealer, according to you yourself.

You are trying to raise your commitment level when things are not going well (she isn’t attracted to you, doesn’t have good sex with you). Think about it like this: if you had a job where the worse you performed, the more you got paid, how would you behave at work?

You’re trying to move a girl in after 8 months. Generally 6 months is the bare minimum for a committed relationship to begin, so get out of here.

If you’re still trying to figure out how to make her wet with desire after 3 dates, you should be pulling the plug. You are at 8 months somehow. At this point it should be clear, nothing you do will make this happen. She doesn’t like you. And don’t “talk to her” about this, just watch her actions in the bedroom.

Committing too early as a man limits your options. You really would be better off on the hunt, looking for almost ANY other girl to fuck. At least then you would actually be fucking. And outside a relationship, you have more time to go to the gym, make money, reach your goals, etc.

You are clearly being played as a beta bucks. No/bad sex, refusing to kiss, no BJs, but she is moving in with you. You didn’t write it here explicitly, but take a look at your current situation: would you be paying for more than half the rent, or all the groceries?

2-sided open relationships are always an advantage for the girl. It’s way easier for her to get sex than it is for you. With this arrangement, she can safely get dicked down by alpha fucks while you comfort her and pay for her shit. You won’t get any side action, and even if you did, she would get mad and stop you from pursuing side puss. The point of a 2-way open relationship is only for the woman to get both alpha fucks and beta bucks.

she seems to love me

Look at her actions, not words. No crazy sex? Is she actually doing other non-sex stuff for you that a girlfriend would? That’s how she really feels about you.

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Man, almost nothing we read in your post was “red pill” at all. Honestly, this reads more like a blue pill betabux guy just spitting out red pill keywords. Reconsider this entire thing, please, for the love of god. You are rewarding shitty behavior if you do anything else.

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Reply To amanef - Relationship of 8 months
She's 24, I'm 26, we've been together for 8 months now. When I don't feel like she's doing what I want I become sad/ disappointed. It' totally not outcome independence....... [more]

Typo-MAGAshiv
8h ago 2026-07-07 05:46:44 Ask TRP Forum

You're wasting your time.

I saw your blog post. Excerpts:

She refused to kiss me on the second date.

She evaded my kisses during the first part of the relationship.

She basically refused french kissing during the relationship.

She didn't give me one proper blowjob.

She didn't once hug me.

She didn't once initiate kissing me.

She said her libido used to be higher, with me its lower.

She said she doesn't want to have adventurous sex with me.

She doesn't desire you. She's using you for something else. This will never be a good relationship for you.

Also from your blog post:

She doesn't want to be associated with me on socials...

She's disrespectful to me in social settings.

These would be intolerable dealbreakers even without that first excerpt.

You need to end this for your own good. Back to this post:

If she paints the room and I say she can't move in, that's just shitty,

So what?

You know what's even more shitty? Continuing this farce.

Have you read the sidebar? Specifically, HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches? Relevant portion:

A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.

Men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Since a relationship is what you have to offer, you mustn’t just give it away. It must be a reward she earns in small doses for inspiring your trust and devotion.

I understand that many of you want a LTR with a good girl – sometimes a series of flings isn’t enough to fulfill you. Believe me, I sympathize.

But winning a LTR is HER problem, not yours. Handing a girl your devotion won’t magically make her worthy of it. When you WANT a LTR too badly, you place your focus on the idea of having a relationship instead of evaluating the girl. You become fixated on your fantasy relationship and selectively ignore the things happening right in front of you: her deep character flaws, her indiscretions, and the red flags.

You must regard women as candidates applying for the job of being your girlfriend – a supporter, a lover, a comfort away from the everyday battles. Don't just hire a bitch because you want the position filled. Make sure you vet your candidates fiercely and hire the right girl for the job.

If you've actually read any MRP or actually listened to Rian Stone, you'd know that in the decade+ of MRP's existence, HSP's words have been proven true over and over again.

You are making the relationship your goal, and it's to your detriment.

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