I was going to leave this as a comment in: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325453/where_are_you_guys_meeting_these_cute_men/7874466/ But I think it has a good home here. My first post here. Hope you enjoy!

I've become fascinated with semantics and etymology in recent years particularly when a debate centers around the cultural meaning of a term.

Have you noticed that women now often refer to each other as "girls" and rarely refer to a man they desire as "hot"?

Let's start with "cute": A feminist harpy online said that referring to a woman as "cute" was patronizing. I dismissed her whinging at the time but later as I saw women use the term for men they desired, I thought I'd utilize her observation for my purpose. Why "cute?" Robin, Off to the Bat-Dictionary!

"Cute primarily describes something—especially something small, young, or dainty—that is charming, pleasant, and attractive."

Cute is something desirable, but not necessarily universally "hot". Perhaps something that's not to everyone's taste. Not everyone wants a "cute car". It also sounds traditionally feminine, doesn't it? There's an implied submissiveness there including the need to conform to "pleasant" versus demanding and entitled.

This way, they can see Chad as perhaps accessible to themselves and perhaps even apply some beta demands to him. A "cute" guy should approach her and subject himself to The Humiliation Ritual while a "hot" guy by default could demand King treatment similar to the Princess treatment she desires. If she says "the hot man didn't approach me", this begs the question: "Well, perhaps because he's hot he doesn't need to?"

Let's now pivot to "girl". Back 40 years ago, calling any woman over the age of 18 "girl" could get you corrected: you were supposed to refer to them as WOMEN! DID YOU HEAR ME ROAR!?!?!

Now that even without the ERA they know they have via DEI more rights than us, they want to be treated like "girls" again where they aren't held to pesky adult responsibilities and burdens. If they pay their own rent, they expect a medal like a teenager who cleans her own room without being asked. Girls just wanna have fun!

https://youtu.be/PIb6AZdTr-A

Think about that for a moment. Cyndi Lauper's video dad is being teased for telling her to grow up. Of COURSE girls just wanna have fun but a parent's responsibility is to tell kids to do unFUN things such as brushing your teeth, cleaning your room, and learning how to become a full fledged adult.

Compare and contrast to how the term "man" and "boy" is utilized: "Boy" is now used in the most degrading form possible. Even having fun such as playing video games on your day off is mocked as being "boy"ish. The term "man" as used by them is rarely used as a form of respect and even avoided such as replacing with the word "guy" which is gender and age neutral. They prefer to use the word "man" solely as a reminder of one-sided burdens and obligations.

Something more disturbing may be that (literal) boys are continually reminded that there's something inadequate or wrong with them for fear they'll retain such behaviors into adulthood which is Wrong while, on the other hand, it's common for 40 year old "Disney Princesses" to drop $10K/year at Disneyworld.

I like the way this one ends: https://youtu.be/Cz7tw5ViYxk

One of the other aspects of their "girl"ish mindset is the notion that they should have entitlements because... they WANT them. "That's just the way I was raised to expect men to be providers" or "That's simply my preference! Why should I settle?!?!"

More semantics: "preferences" are not the same as "entitlements" and "entitlements" are only real when backed with an actual method of consensual trade or political authority and the ultimate political authority, as we learn on Starship Troopers: https://youtu.be/w_urWSSZgwU?t=44

Meaning, men, that we're living an era of when feminine Political Authority as we know it is so delightfully fragile, The Tinkerbell Effect, where when men stop collectively believing in it, it ceases to exist.

Hence why The Big Question posts on WAATGM are so profound in that women asking such obvious questions is similar to hopping up and down on a cracked bridge: Shaming ploys only work to punish a few miscreants to set an example to keep the others in line but when you do it out of exasperation that the miscreants are NOT being punished...

That's like putting up a sign: "Please don't litter! Nobody in authority can do anything about it!"

Once you become attuned to semantics and etymology, it can be addictive! https://youtu.be/4sSEQbVV4M4?t=82

Minor quibble:

"we don’t give liver transplants to chronic alcoholics"

Actually, we do. Larry Hagman drank a bottle of whiskey a day until he got a call from his doctor who told him to throw the glass he had in his hand into the sink because he had cirrhosis of the liver. He managed to luck out and get a liver transplant and chuckled that he thought he was charming because he drank but after he stopped drinking, he was still charming.

Sure, many of them DO stick-the-landing but with this caveat:

Are they mentally able to "settle?"

Yes, with OLD they can land a beta bucks with literally less effort than it takes for us to order a pizza via an app. The Pig Woman experiment shows: https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210744/https://www.hiddendominion.com/the-online-dating-pig-experiment/

But they mentally are incapable of settling or they have bizarre shit tests that even these men can't pass.

I was recently pondering a story told to me by a friend about her husband who knew an aging woman who was considering becoming a "single mother by choice" and put an ad in the paper. She got a sperm donor and chatted with him and...

fell in love with him and married him.

It's an astonishing story and illustrates that many people can have relationships but their dating methodology is broken. She was incapable to courting a man normally but the "sperm donor" route brought about enough intimacy for her to make a connection.

These modern women remind me of the Sheldon Cooper paradigm where someone can be brilliant but socially autistic. Consider: it was WOMEN who were considered a century ago to be the social ones but now they utterly lack "wiles" beyond being a sperm receptacle or boss babe.

So sure, some will stick-the-landing but many won't. And think about it:

Isn't that enough?

In that yes, some will get their cake with sprinkles on top but some won't. And that's something women handle a lot less than us men do: uncertainty.

They're the ones who want to be "led" and "protected and provided" for, yes?!?!

For them, that uncertainty is a living hell and they avoided it, up to now, due to massive social and media campaigns telling them that they can "have it all" or that it's men who have the "loneliness crisis".

But they increasingly see otherwise as they have aunts and friends who wind up alone and childless.

At my work we had a joke about a guy who wanted to quit his job that he complained the boss was abusive and he griped: "yeah, but all the good jobs with decent conditions don't pay as much as this one". It's like Molly Brown griping that none of the Titanic lifeboats had leather covered seats.

In closing, the best revenge fantasy for us is to note that even if they stick the landing, they're settling. And that's punishment enough.

Lul, men don't value club/bar bitches, they already know these women are gutter tier for anything past a pump and dump and they are risky for even that. Plus why go thru the stupid song and dances these women will inevitably waste huge amounts of your time in person with when it is so much faster to right swipe on an entire zip code and then sort the wheat from the chaff on the ones that actually bother to right swipe back?

Even if the women on tinder or other hookup apps aren't of any better quality, the process is still vastly more efficient and lower risk to the man.

Chad can get the same or better far faster on Tinder. And the lower 80% of remaining men have started to realize that jumping thru the hoops at all is a waste of time since what little they will ever get out of it is in no way worth the cost.