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Vermillion-Rx
9h ago  The Hub
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@Bozza

It is your own ego. I've done the same thing. You assume because you swallowed the red pill and it's logical and that you have experience and results that other men who respect you will take it at face value because you have or are "proof".

how do [they] see that path?

They don't man. Most of these guys if you ask them deep enough questions are actually somewhat suicidal deep down even if not actively and it's an old dormant part of them. Their literal existence is predicated on getting a girlfriend and being validated. They don't respond to logic because their literal existence and ego is about women.

The fastest sign I've seen that you are dealing with one of these men is you give extremely straightforward red pill advice (even a sentence worth) and they don't apply it.

You: "Hey man do xyz with this girl"

Him: "okay I will"

Him: doesn't do it, makes excuses, tells "but but but" as to why he won't do it, says "I just can't cause what if she blah blah blah"

I've wasted far too much time on these guys just realize that they don't even have the capacity to experiment on even one girl they don't care that much about. They are so invested in their validation script that they will not just go try your simple cookie cutter advice on even one girl they are lukewarm interested in because it might not work. Having even just one barely room temperature body in front of them is still too much scarcity to test a red pill game set on

They pretend they are listening but they are fighting you every step of the way. I see these guys on coaching online and I see them when I go to dance venues even. I'll tell a guy exactly what to do, we go serge two girls and I even ask him which one he wants and pick the one I don't give a fuck about.

The chick I went with will almost always keep trying to stay on me and then I see the girl walk off the floor away from the dude I serged with almost without fail.

It's not like he didn't like the chick or something, i basically ask these guys who they want to approach, they don't even fucking pick a girl half the time so I have to pick the pairs of girls. And they still can't get through a 6 minute set (two songs).

I once had two very bangable girls isolated with us once and this fucking guy starts learning a movie with a platonic married chick friend and our group and even she had to tell him like 5 times to focus on the girls I brought over. They were interested and very cute and he couldn't fucking do it. I was having to juggle both of them and then they bailed.

Another guy I once asked him who he wanted and he picked one and said "oh man the things I'd do to her" and then he didn't last one song. I still had my chick on me (again they were both quite attractive) and he bungled it and then knocked up and engaged single mom who already had 5 kids and lived in a trailer park).

My biggest advice to you is that if me you have under your wing cannot even get through one single interaction taking your advice -to such a degree that they can't even YOLO it one single time and just simply blame you for an ineffective strategy even one time following what you said, just give up

I know it's tempting to red Knight and save every man but after years of helping men on here and trying to in real life, there is just a subset of men who should have never found the red pill or even anything manosphere. So men are so lost and so dependent on women they will not even try basic advice to the contrary of their deeply held ego.

Some men really should just be left alone to be blue pill as hell and take mediocre women with lukewarm interest on a few dinner dates before they even get to see a tit, while they work their 9-5 and be part of the system. We can't all be Cads and Chads anyway, society wouldn't function

If they can't even leave a couple interactions to destiny without feeling like they their world is gonna fall apart my advice would be to not help them unless or until they are actually ready.

There is no worse disservice you can do to your fellow man than to try to unplug him from his fantasy and leave him in purgatory where he is stuck between surefire blue pill methods of getting duty sex and red pill basics he can never achieve with his own devices on even the most basic of game and red pill.

All it does is leave hopelessly blue pill men in an awkward purgatory where they have blue pill goals and red pill anger. They are so much worse off than happy wife happy life betas. The red pill is not for everyone so don't project your red pill success onto their blue pill convictions

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Vermillion-Rx
9h ago  The Hub
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@Bozza

You can tell which men so badly want the blue pill to be true.

I have coached a lot of men over the years and the number one reason they don't improve much at all over years of instruction is that they don't want the red pill to be true.

They've seen the side bar, they've read some rational male and they still don't improve because they are in denial phase the entire time. They start treating red pill as though it were pickup art for blue pill goals.

Without fail they always reject it. They'll tell you they are red pill but and that they are serious about learning but no matter what they say they are always centering their life around women. Even when they lift at the gym they are doing it for female approval.

I have stopped trying to coach men who have clear red pill resistance. I've never seen even one guy who won't depedestalize women actually even get past anger phase much less denial

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Vermillion-Rx
9h ago  The Hub
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@Bozza

Fair point, I forget this is for the hopeless beta

At any rate don't give him anything actually red pill

Like it at most should be something on the periphery that he can easily enough reject without wounding his ego

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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  Tech Talk

@Bozza no you are literally projecting and seething about not going well as you don't go well because gypsy you has been scientifically proven not to go well!

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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@Bozza the point is, your original diction was wrong wrong wrong!!!, and my suggested substitution was one of many words that would work.

And way to use AI to write a reply.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  Tech Talk

@Baron kind of the point of what he was saying.

You'd know that if you went well!

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Typo-MAGAshiv
9h ago  The Hub
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@Bozza

Thoughts?

He see's *sees my success and wants to simulate *replicate it.

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deeplydisturbed
2m ago  The Hub
shoe-fucker

Random Thought: Saturday Edition.

Where do gold diggers go when they age out?

Plenty has been written and said about this, but here is one more factoid to add to the list. Many women, gold diggers or otherwise, who run out of time (post 50 years old) start seeking out financial security.

They become “Security Diggers". At my age, I see them all the time.

I know this is not new, but the nuances are important. Hear me out.

A security digger is always an older single woman who has tossed her snapper around like a baseball at spring training. Her box has seen more action than a subway turnstile at rush hour. Her kitty is tore up from the floor up. So went through her cougar phase, but the young pups no longer like how she looks and smells.

Simply put – she is used up, washed up, and ten miles past the wall. In other words, she has no options left.

So what’s a gal to do at 55+ with no romantic prospects, no sexual power, and no 401k to do? Security shopping.

A security digger typically:

  • Talks a good game – relaxed, chilled, easy going. No drama up front
  • Dials into your likes and dislikes. Lots of compliments, but subtle and low key
  • No love bombing (she knows this is a red flag) but she mentions early and often how good you make her feel and how much she “likes” you.
  • Super easy to please. A walk in the park seems to make her happy
  • She is mysteriously single and not dating a broke dude
  • Avoids talk of money, lifestyle, gifts, paying for dinner etc. She knows how that looks to a man. She has to trick you, so no money talk up front!
  • Usually has a job, but no real career. Just work and paying bills and her weariness shows.

I could go on, but you get the idea. They tend to NOT look desperate, which is the key. She keeps that shit under wraps; she knows she has to hide (or downplay) not only her true body count, but also her “trauma”, her baggage, her ongoing problems with her adult children, her long list of “just a friend” dudes, and her ongoing relationship with her ex/baby daddy. But above all she has to hide her lack of retirement funds.

The thought of living on Social Security ($24k/year) and her paltry pension ($10-15k/year) is terrifying to her. She will do almost anything to avoid that massive drop in lifestyle.
I suspect that the increase in these old broads getting cosmetic surgery is more about keeping their meal ticket husband than any sort of SMV consideration.

So add that to the lexicon of Red Pill truth and wisdom – the rise of the Security Digger.

They are out there men. They’re desperate and they are on the hunt. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

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Vermillion-Rx
10h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

@Bozza

If you absolutely can't resist the urge give him a lighg reading like book of Pook. Don't bring out actual red pill

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SwarmShawarma
1h ago  Tech Talk

@Bozza

large organisations remain unpatched after 12 months.

Isn't it because focus is on new features and gimmincks? And that creates even more hole. What is a model switches to maintenance first. Quality before release.

Anthropic said in its report. In one example Mythos found a flaw in a line of code that had been tested five million times without detection. The

From an article. There is no way humans did it. Unless proven otherwise it undermines the writeup. Without context it sounds like "I used Philips screwdriver on a flat head and it didn't work 5mil times". Is there a manipulation elsewhere baked in?

Cross referring super powerful ANTHROPIC, with VC investor article are this kind of news trying to make the punters to buy overpriced stock. Would seem natural to reduce the losses by manipulation and since this can't be released, maybe more mysterious features will come up to inflate the price before a crash.

Once people will bail out the "AI banks" everything will go back to normal.

On the other hand if true bit reminds me of the series "Silicon Valley". No spoilers.

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