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@First-light yeah I was being dramatic with the "blow to red pill" phrasing. But I do think this is a very different paradigm than models we've used that focus on male agency vs female hypoagency.
I don't think he's concluded any practical advice but it's a jumping off point for improving over the classic cold approach with a 99.99% failure rate.
@deeplydisturbed not one dimensional
We have built as people because we could stand up for our team/tribe. If he did it because pussy then not good. If he has strong morale and did it because tribe then he eventually shown not enough calibration to deal with stuff in modern times.
I had a small team that I took care of and looked out for them equally (to my perception). After 2y of not talking to each other dude from the team did me a favour, girl's husband remebered me after 2y and made me a cool offer after accidentally meeting and recognising me.
Sometimes good deeds actually pay off.
feeling like a clown?
OP focuses on his colleague HB and age so probably white knight, but...
It'll probably be a few hours (or even tomorrow) before I respond to my notifications and catch up on what I've missed on here.
I just want to say that August 2025 has been one of the strangest, most eventful months I've had in a long time.
I can't go onto too much detail due to doxxing concerns, but I'm glad this month is over.
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@redpillschool I would also add that Birds are not really a very good model for human behaviour. Having occasionally hunted most birds, including pigeons, frequently watching their antics while hunting deer and while keeping hens at home, I see they have quite different behaviours to people.
They are basically feathered dinosaurs and a lot of things they do are more simple and primitive than mammals. In fact the birds we like to hunt and eat are all of types that eat in bulk, have powerful bodies (with lots of meat) and reproduce quite fast because they are big resource targeters -without which they could not maintain those muscly bodies. Since they follow big resources, they have quite aggressive reproduction strategies -if you don't get your young our fast your intra species rivals will instead.
These strategies would not fit a slow reproducing animal like a human. Many of these birds actually practise a lot of rape where males lack status -pigeons and ducks being prime examples. They are low investors because the resources are high -select mate(s), bang out young, bang other females too if you can is the strategy. Funnily enough we have recently been in the most resource rich period in human history and so the easy access to sex with low commitment thing has been more in humans but not at the levels of say poultry or ducks who are frankly a bit obscene by our standards.
Read More@adam-l Yeah that is Chad's bane, along with furious exes who couldn't lock him down but thought they had the pussy power to, till reality hit.
I am a natural introvert and quite low on enthusiasm for the "game" This still fits broadly with my experience -women signal receptiveness and this is a move in the mating "dance" and comes first if you watch closely.
@redpillschool I can't see it as a blow to red pill, unless red pill is a narrow slice of PUA theory. The truth of the nature of men and women remains constant but it is also true that women signal receptiveness. This in itself is a "move" in human courtship.
A lot of PUAs who are not good at reading women because they only focus on the male side of the dance play a huge numbers game they needed not have played if they just paid attention to receptiveness signals.
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