@Overkill_Engine comment gave me food for thought: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325179/form_a_line_boys/7872612

“Yup. Women's desire is about as amoral as a dog in heat. The proof of this is in how many end up single moms after spreading their legs for men that were clearly not going to stick around for any woman.”

On WAATGM, the topic is usually women complaining about a lack of “men” (meaning hot men) or the leftover women or single mothers no longer getting approached.

In the case of many single mothers, however, the reason is that these women often married the first guy who asked her out. I actually have a dear friend that this happened to. She was sweet and shy and jealous of her younger brother who was getting American girls chasing after him due to his British accent at the time. For whatever reason, perhaps her tomboyish like interests, she wasn’t getting bites.

Finally some working class schmuck who worked as a dishwasher at a restaurant where she waitressed asked her out on a dinner date when she was about 19. He did the whole working class gentleman thing and later, when she finished nursing school, she husbanded him up. Lucky bastard!

My friend (her brother) remarked that perhaps her body was protecting her by refusing to get pregnant. About 10 years later she divorced him because he drank and couldn’t hold a job.

It makes me wonder that a lot of women who spread their legs and get married when young did so because they refuse to initiate relationships and accept that male burden. They weren’t necessarily hypergamous. They just detested doing the asking out and paying for their own dinner.

As a father, I avoid telling my daughter what to do because when she’s out of my control, she’s just going to default to factory settings or the clique around her. I explain to her history, consequences, and as importantly, provide her with tools.

When we first went to the playground at age 3, she wanted to play with kids and asked me to ask the kids to play with her. I explained to her that this was a very low risk rejection scenario, explained the emotions she and the other kids went through, and demonstrated how to ask kids to play with her. With the other child’s mother there, I would go up and say: “My daughter Sofia next to me wants to play hide-and-seek with your daughter. Would she like that?”

After only 1 or 2 cycles, my daughter was doing this on her own. I’m very proud of her. The teachers say she’s the social leader which is what I want. I don’t want her following the dummies.

I explained to her about tattoos, face piercings, and such in a similar way. I explained they were tribal largely for men going through rites of passage, and she quickly lost interest in them. As a father, I want her to be empowered, thoughtful, and ethical. I can’t stop her from messing up her own life if she’s determined, but at least she’ll understand what messing her life up means.

If I had a son, I’d advise him that there’s an opportunity in youthful courtship. It’s difficult in this era, but locking down untainted women in their teens going “steady” and then marrying after university is perhaps the best route to having a stable family. You protect her from the cock carousel but this comes at a cost: You need to be emotionally strong to handle the rejection when you are emotionally vulnerable. Granted, there’s fewer such women available since the cultural poison is utterly ubiquitous. Nonetheless, few women actually get BETTER with age so it’s like hitting the produce section at the supermarket the earliest before anyone else gets there. I think it also requires parents who will mentor their son and guide him through this difficult time.

If you’re a young person reading this, this. Is perhaps one of the most difficult eras to start a marriage. Consider this chart: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HIAP0fyW4AAZYzM?format=jpg&name=large

Nonetheless, the good news is that the truth is out there. Best of wishes to the young men and women reading this!

Interesting write up PK.

And good on you for teaching your kid social skills. Especially in 2026 that’s super rare among kids.

I do disagree on getting married extremely early as being the “safe route”. I see 2 problems.

1: even if she doesn’t ride the CC in her early 20s, the globalized and social media-driven society we live in will present and glorify that behavior in her mind. Often leading to FOMO and destabilizing the marriage.

2: at this age, the man will not have had enough experience with different women and maintaining frame. He will be unlikely to be able to handle #1 above. Heck, he probably won’t have his shit together (stable school/career, gym, social circle, etc.) Early marriage could handicap him.

All around, I see marriage as just not in a good state today. High school sweethearts, stable career man and corporate nun in their 30s, sugar daddy and baby, I see them all as… suboptimal. With (maybe) the exception of the stable career man and corporate nun, they are all in decline in the West.