@sean_karaya My wife literally says sometimes "What are you going to do, die rich rather than spend the money now?" I point out I don't want to live poor but also I value something called "eff you" money. I have had a lot of jerk bosses during my career and having "eff you" money made the jobs tolerable in that when I needed to go, or they threw me out the door, I wasn't devastated about it.
In the meantime, I have a friend who spent all her money on a new deck, more stuff, (several woman friends actually) and they fret when they're out of work because they don't have significant savings or rainy day fund to fall back on.
And in another case... I have a friend whose a Soviet woman whose a workaholic but also hypergamous and she's miserable because she's working hard to be rich but she can't enjoy it, at all. She can't enjoy men because she wants successful men and she's only getting older.
It's no surprise why women left to their own devices find a way to make themselves miserable.
Read More@sean_karaya Not sure I understand you, but I regularly adjust my financial priorities such as when my daughter cried for a $3 bag of cheetos at the airport that I know costs $60 cents, I let it go because we were on vacation.
@Typo-MAGAshiv I appreciate that and it did occur to me, but my daughter didn't throw a tantrum or anything like that. We were at the airport and it was a vacation so a bit of splurge is allowable and I think it was fair to indulge her in that case.
I realize, actually, that I had been overly frugal at times traveling and the stress caused by holding firm to principles wasn't worth the $10 when the overall vacation cost $1000. I'm cheap, but I realize that I have to be flexible.
I refuse to wait in line 20 minutes for Costco gas to save $2 anymore.
@lurkerhasarisen If you have a chance, watch "My American Uncle" starring Gerard Depardieu. It gets a bit sentimental at times, but Gerard's character, René's, biography illustrates the pain that many "protector/provider" men go through hoping to earn an honest living but are systematically dehumanized terrified of being declared "Not Economically Viable". My wife is a fan of his and I think it would be good for her to watch it with me. It's B&W though along with subtitles which can be a challenge for some.
This entitlement that many women still cling to, that a man should bear that burden while she has a career for "fun" or to spend "her" money on consumer crap to impress other women, is obnoxious and insulting particularly when they dare to have "standards" in terms of how the man entertains her during courtship or how exceptionally handsome he has to be.
Read More@Typo-MAGAshiv Human behavior is interesting. When I drive home from my daughter's gymnastics class along a main road, there's about 7 different service stations within a mile of each other and they all post their prices on a big board. These aren't fancy places with "special" additives and all that. Just gas. The price differences are astounding with up to 40 cents/gallon. The two cheapest places sometimes have lines but I can simply swing to the other one that has the shorter one. I do wonder why there are people who spend the extra 40 cents at the most expensive one?
Another interesting factor is that the cheapest place has a "cash price" advertised that's about 4 cents/gallon less than credit. I see many people get out of their cars and schlep to the cashier, give the money, then pump gas, then go back in for their change.
I did the math: at $3/gallon, that's a little more than a penny per dollar more and my credit card gives me a minimum of 1 cent back, my AMEX 3 cents/dollar back actually. So I pay 4 cents/gallon more, but I'm getting 12 cents in rewards. In any case, all the hassle they go through is about 35 cents if they have a card that doesn't have any rewards.
Read More@lurkerhasarisen My wife can be a serious pain in the arse (Soviet woman, super hyper even by Ukrainian standards and THAT is saying something) but she can be frugal if need be and by her roots.
If I'm not careful, she'll blow everything in under a week but the rest of the time she wants to mop the floors by hand because "that's how she likes to do it" even as I'm happy to spend $120 on a weekend on maid service and just let her relax. I hate blowing money on junk, but I also appreciate that some things have value.
I was fretting last Sylvester eve on whether to buy a new Mazda CX-5 or Rav-4. What pushed me to the CX-5 was 0% interest for 5 years and a pretty good discount and the Rav-4's trims are bare bones. I drive my cars for at least 20 years so I want luxury for that time.
I wouldn't fly Spirit or Frontier if you paid me. I can get decent pricing from real airlines.
My wife, when I met her, was pretty frugal but it's tough when she's surrounded by women who are wasteful but also, she sees how awful their lives are. A Polish friend cited a quote that said "women are like water, they take the form of the container they are in". I wonder if I exported blue haired feminists to Islamic nations for a decade or so, would it cure them?
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
@OpeningVermicelli405 Every situation is unique. Something interesting I want to ask the group: Do you know of many men nowadays getting paternity trapped despite using spermicide condoms? We see a LOT of single mothers nowadays on the channel so I'm thinking a lot of these women are products of accidental pregnancies (I say accidental because i presume the men didn't intentionally knock them up.)
So in that regards, personally, and everyone's situation is different, when I was young MILF's were quite desirable to gain experience as well as even pros in that I have friends who have had lousy marriages because they knocked up girlfriends they probably shouldn't have "settled" for (emphasis). Women gripe about "settling" for men below their standards, but it astonishes me how many men wind up with women when they could have done "better".
At this stage of society, relationships are largely a matter of protect yourself, sleep with someone for a while, and then see later what you want to do? The era of marrying a virgin or someone with a body count less than one hand and starting a family is largely rare for most here. If you can have a good time, and you're responsible, that's up to you.
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
@woodsmoke While that may be the case for Tyrone (who perhaps largely works "cash only" jobs), there's no reason why a woman won't come after Chad for CS if it suits her. I've read about "sperm donors" (guys who didn't go through clinics but volunteered to get "single mother by choice" women or lesbian couples pregnant often got hit for child-support later.
Chads are taken off the relationship market (not the hookup market) perhaps by their early 30's for this reason. Some are paying CS for a kid, some get married and start a family, some even may have gotten divorce raped by then (keep in mind that narcissistic women thinking they're hot enough to have married chad have an inflated notion of value).
I have a cousin whose not a chad, but quite frankly he had good potential. A solid 6'2" tall, blond hair, blue eyes, and a decent job (but a pot belly) but his pudgy wife (who looked like a twin sister in a way) divorced him thinking "I can do better). About 5 years later he remarried a 10 year younger version of her and she remarried a guy who was slightly less good looking than he was.
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
@Musicgoon78 @woodsmoke I have a relative (and other women I know) who got pregnant when she was about 28 and got an abortion. So in that case, it was definitely an "accidental pregnancy". In some cases they were on the pill and others they thought they couldn't get pregnant. A dear friend knocked up his girlfriend because the girlfriend said she believed she couldn't get pregnant and married her (and they're still married about 14 years later). My wife chuckles that she trapped him, but this woman is pretty dumb overall so I believe it's possible.
The question then isn't whether women can get accidentally pregnant (they can) but what happens afterwards. I do know of women who are (insanely) "pro-life" (or at least make that choice) after an accidental pregnancy. It's basically like driving recklessly with air-bags disabled, but from what I've heard about, appears to happen.
Abstinence is the safest, of course, but in practicality, I personally slept with a MILFs who was actually too old to have children (I was 30, she was 50) and still hot but (it's a funny story I like to tell, sorry for the ramble) she went to pot about 6 years after that, extraordinary. Otherwise, it's a matter of "managed risk": wear spermicide condoms but also perhaps only sleep with women who are potential wife material. I have read about women who claimed that they were pro-choice who reneged when they got knocked up. There's a reason, I think, why there are so many single mothers out there now.
I think many men foolishly have sex without condoms because of a lack of preparation and opportunity: The first sexual encounter with a woman requires seizing the moment and many men won't give that up despite not having condoms on them.
Another option, and I'm not making this up, is one gal friend of our slept with an Australian who gave the name "Barry O Reef". I have some other fun stories from the 90's I can share (I hope you enjoy).
During my day, I wore spermicide condoms and didn't do creampies but rather pulled out with the condom. I then wrapped the condom into a wad of tissue and the the sperm mixed with the paper into the trash. Unless she has an IVF lab there, she wouldn't have gotten much from that.
And of course, the best choice of all is professionals. I had a few of them as well in my late 20's and it was mind blowing. They take care of all this and it's perhaps the best sexual experience us men can imagine.
Read More1w ago TheRedPill
@Durek_The_Bald About to go down (currently up late at night buying train tickets for my father-in-law) and would like to share this story:
My crazy redhead-ex-MILF gilfriend back in Newport Beach wanted to bring in roommates and they were all losers and one of them as a surfer dude guy blonde hair, likable, and we had a party with some weed I expect and magic happened. About 5 months later he got a notice in the mail to someone called "Dale Friend" when his acual spelling of his name was Dale Fred. Or something like that. Was he served properly? He responded amazingly enough and got nabbed on child-support.
Another case in the 90's in LA had this guy who flirted with a slow looking girl at checkout at Ralphs and took her home and had a fun evening. Well, he went back a month later and she said "I"ve been looking for you. You're going to be a daddy!" No, me, my instincts would have me just run out of the store and not stop moving until I had escaped. A more rational me would have congratulated her, given her a fake name and number, pay for the groceries in cash, and quietly have friends pick me up at a bus station and they pick up my car. I would then move to another country.
The idiot didn't think like me. He gave her all his real info and my MILF attorney girlfriend represented him but nothing could be done. Oh, and the baby was born slow too.
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