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Bozza
5h ago  The Hub

Got walked out on on the first date, one of only 3. Not sure what happened but okay.

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Vermillion-Rx
7h ago  RP Memes
Meme Lord Supreme

@throwaway_old_guy

40 years is pretty good

Who knows what could have been achieved with more TRP

It's still a really good run that you did this well regardless

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Reply To Seagram7 - Single mom laments that it is so hard to find a good man because of racism. It's not because of racism, it's because you're a single mom in the first place

houseoftolstoy
3h ago 2026-08-07 01:03:13 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Unchivalrous Christian

Seagram7, you are correct that the big reason for her having difficulty in the dating market is her being a single mom. She would indeed have similar difficulty if her child was white and not biracial. However, I will state that the child being biracial is not the dealbreaker, but an additional issue on top of the primary reason. The issue that comes with a biracial child and dating is the visibility of dynamic that has taken place. If the child was 100% white and the guy coming into the relationship is white, when they are out in public, it is easy for them to "blend in" as a regular family where most people are not immediately asking the question of who is the child's father. It may come up in conversation, but it would not be something everyone could see so plain and obvious.

This same benefit of no one asking the questions about the child's father does not take place if you are white guy who is dating a white woman with a biracial child. Everyone can see the obvious lack of paternity of the man to the child, which makes it obvious to the world that you are not the father. There is no "blending in" with this scenario. And if every man who was in the equivalent situation had to where a sign above his head when in a relationship with a single mother that says "I am not the father of this child," we would see even less men willing to consider a relationship. And that is already factoring in the reduced pool of men, since a large chunck of them were disinterested when they find out a woman is a single father, regardless of the race of the child.

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Reply To Land_of_the_losers - Do you feel strongly for your Motjet? While holding one, two, four fingers up to god?

mattyanon
9h ago 2026-08-06 18:57:13 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
TRP Endorsed

Requirements: motivated, kind hearted, tall, strong, honest, hard working, lots of love for his [mother?], family and this little wench.

It is unreal to me how clearly this screams "be a provider, pay for my children, and don't expect sex because I'm a good little tattooed Christian whore."

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throwaway_old_guy
12h ago  RP Memes

@Vermillion-Rx

I think I am safe after 40 years, maybe...

Although, looking back at it all, I did OK and who only knows where I would have ended up.

Some days, I am happy with how it all turned out and others I contemplate how much better it could have been if I had known more about TRP.

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MentORPHEUS
14h ago  Women Behaving Badly

Young lady displays ZERO self control, or clue how to behave during a traffic stop. Pulled over for 70 in a 35 and with children in the car, she proceeds to ignore the officer at her window, yammering on her phone instead. Volume warning, especially once she's seated in the back of the patrol car and has a Demon Screeching meltdown.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuM1581AdmU

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Reply To Vermillion-Rx - Red Pill Purgatory
The Red Pill was never meant to be a Purgatory in which men stay permanently confused or angry after they find it. However, many men who find it simply do...... [more]

GeorgeIII
12h ago 2026-08-06 15:38:17 TheRedPill Forum

Great write up Verm. Too many people are stuck in the anger phase, though it is a necessary step.

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My only major add is that man of (most of?) the purgatory people on here and in the world are not at all black pill. I’ll get to example posts further in this reply.

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The Black Pill is originally derivative from the red pill. It too comes from the idea that society lies to us and that the rules are different from the ones that are taught. Men are often told that just being yourself, and being nice to women will get you the relationship of your dreams. That men working hard alone will guarantee success in multiple life domains. Which is obviously not true. In this “awakening” to a harsh truth, red and black are the same.

The way I see it, Black Pill IS an ideology (with some actionable advice), while red pill is a praxeology. The 3 main themes I see in Black Pill, mostly not shared in red pill praxeology. Note that I do not necessarily agree with the takes below, though I do believe they have some truth.

1: Lookism: the idea that you are primarily, or even entirely, judged by what you look like. Believing that looks are all that matters is why Black Pillers are less focused on learning game. After all, Chad isn’t Chad because he’s 5,6”, balding, and has acne.

Lookism also applies to other parts of life outside of mating and dating, like jobs/career, making male friends, and how kindly you are treated in general. Lookism is also the origin of Looksmaxxing; if all my outcomes are determined primarily by my looks, then I should primarily focus on improving my appearance. Which, whether you believe is correct or not, is at least a logical conclusion from the premise.

2: Genetic determinism: the idea that all your outcomes in life are determined by your genetics. This is where the “it never began” line comes from, usually from short/ugly/autistic men. Black Pillers believe nature is much more important than nurture.

3: Fatalism in general: Black Pill ideology also subscribes to a fatalistic philosophy. This has 2 parts in the definition. First, all things in the universe are already determined; we just don’t know what all the outcomes are. Second, there is nothing you as an individual can do, as the system itself is broken. So the only way to get a better outcome is to change the system. (Force women to remain chaste, ration out wives, ban hypergamy, end college indoctrination, etc.) Since you as an individual cannot change the system, you often choose to give up.

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In general, I see two different types of Black Pillers.

There are the ones who looksmax and make that their primary mission. These people have not given up on getting laid, but are generally averse to other ways of improving their outcomes with women, like learning game or social skills. People who do engage in looksmaxxing may do any of the following: go to the gym, get nicer haircuts and clothes, have a regular skin care routine, get cosmetic surgery. This group is similar to stage 3: bargaining. They wish to improve their looks even if it’s annoying or difficult in order to get laid or find a GF.

The other type of Black Piller is the one who gives up and is resigning themself to inceldom. This may be for a variety of reasons: approach anxiety, bad past experiences, extremely bad genetics like being 5’4” or deformed, laziness, etc. For whatever reason, this group has decided it is not possible or not worth the effort to looksmax, let alone do anything else to improve their outcomes. This group is similar to red pill stage 4: grief, but without any success to speak of. They are depressed and want out of the sexual marketplace.

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Why the fuck am I writing this? Because in reality, a lot of Black Pillers who DO looksmax share much in common with Red Pillers. They both are aware that looks matter, hence why many in both groups go to the gym and choose to improve their wardrobes. They are both aware that women like tall, handsome, lean men. They are also both aware of concepts like betabuxxing, and both are aware that single moms are… not the best choice for a serious relationship. That younger women will choose Chad or whoever early in life and then get desperate later in life.

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Many of the people here who are in red pill purgatory on this forum are not Black Pill at all. Frankly, many of them are just clueless. There isn’t any thought about lookism, or giving up, or any of that. They just “don’t get it” for whatever reason, whether they are still in denial, or just plain retarded.

A few examples of recent posts of this type: https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/325499/met_this_girl_at_a_family_friendly_festival_what_does_this_b https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/325508/where_do_i_draw_the_line_when_it_comes_to_an_ltrs_boundaries

In both posts, the OP is just not getting it. It’s not red, it’s not black, they just don’t get it. Whatever the reason. Nothing about giving up, no lookism, just straight up not understanding game or women whatsoever. Even if they say red pill words like “frame” or “low body count”, there is no practical understanding behind what to do with this knowledge.

I generally believe this type of person is exactly what Verm is describing in this post. Someone who would be better off never finding the red pill, as they can’t actually swallow it and apply anything from it correctly. Just sperging in and out of delusion, a maze of mirrors which they walked into. This type is beyond help.

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And of course, we have some people on here who do fit into the Black Pill doomer mindset, the type that has given up or is close to it, believing there is nothing they can do.

Examples: https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/325541/how_do_i_make_it_easy_to_fix_my_life_and_difficult_to_ruin_i https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/325528/32_yo_and_stuck_with_a_faulty_mind

No offense to these OPs. I honestly believe that both are suffering from mental health issues.

I put their posts on here only to show an example of someone who doesn’t believe they have control over their situation. I actually have more faith in this type to fix their situation. At least they know they have a problem, though believing you are defeated before you start certainly doesn’t help.

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