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Seagram7
5h ago WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum

Single mom laments that it is so hard to find a good man because of racism. It's not because of racism, it's because you're a single mom in the first place

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Reply To Vermillion-Rx - Framemaxxing is Retarded
The term **Frame** gets thrown around a lot in manosphere and game – and to no one’s surprise – a lot of newbies miss the point of what Frame *is*...... [more]

Hugo_The_Great
52m ago 2026-08-03 04:13:33 TheRedPill Forum

AI can do this concept much more justice simply because of the fact that TRP are conflates a lot of separate concepts/mechanisms into one and it becomes incoherent fast.

1) Evaluative autonomy (intrapsychic)

Where the terminating judgment lives. The named constructs:

Locus of evaluation (Rogers): whose assessment closes the question — yours or the room's. Self-concept clarity (Campbell, 1996): the extent to which self-beliefs are clearly defined, internally consistent, and temporally stable. This is the operationalized version of your "hesitation." Low SCC predicts susceptibility to social influence, higher neuroticism, and — relevant to your point — difficulty identifying one's own preferences, not just asserting them. Differentiation of self (Bowen): capacity to maintain autonomous functioning while remaining in emotional contact. This is the closest existing construct to your "single mental point of origin," and it's better than your formulation in one specific way: Bowen classifies both fusion (absorbing others' reality) and emotional cutoff (impermeability) as low differentiation. The narcissist you lived with scores low, not high, on the construct you were trying to extract from him. His imperviousness is produced by a deficit in mentalization — an inability to hold the other's perspective as authoritative — not by a surplus of self-definition. Superficially identical output, opposite generator.

2) Definitional control (dyadic/group)

Who gets to name what the situation is. This is your police/norms point and it's the best-supported part of what you've said:

Definition of the situation (W.I. Thomas) and frame analysis (Goffman) — the second blog post is essentially unattributed Goffman, and it's a reasonable rendering. Lukes' third face of power: power operates at three levels — winning decisions, controlling the agenda, and shaping preferences so the conflict never arises. Your "controls what's ok and not ok" is the third face precisely. Doxa (Bourdieu): the taken-for-granted that doesn't have to be argued because it isn't visible as a claim. This is what the blog calls meta-frame, and Bourdieu's version is sharper: the marker of successful definitional control is that it doesn't feel like control. Pluralistic ignorance explains why norm-setters have outsized leverage — most people privately dissent but read others' silence as consent, so the norm holds on a minority's actual belief.

3) Relative dependence (structural)

Who needs the exchange more. This is not psychological at all and it's routinely mistaken for the other two:

Principle of least interest (Waller, 1938): in any dyad, the party less invested in continuation holds more power over its terms. This is the actual academic name for most of what the manosphere calls frame in relationships. Power-dependence theory (Emerson): power of A over B equals dependence of B on A. Fully symmetric, no gender content, no psychology required.

Frame is a rate, not a substance — the rate at which you revise your evaluative standards in response to social pressure relative to the rate at which you revise them in response to evidence. That's measurable in principle, doesn't require metaphysics about the self, and correctly implies that the target isn't zero (immunity is pathology) but a favorable ratio.

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Reply To lalola0101 - LTR into plate/fuckbuddy (her decision)
I had an LTR for 2 years. Things were mostly good and she changed to being a housewife style girl who cooked and cleaned and just waited for me at...... [more]

MrSupreme
3h ago 2026-08-03 01:41:03 Ask TRP Forum

That's her exit strategy, she's giving you plausible deniability.She may leave, she won't. With TRP, you know better, you could fuck her for a few more weeks/months thinking you still have her under your thumb, then she'll leave you.

Or you could fuck her for 2-4 weeks and end it yourself.

Also, on the rare case she goes back in your house, it won't be the same, she will most likely cheat and become an insufferable woman, nagging, bitching, complaining and always draining you emotionally.

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SeasonedRP
10h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv It's a failed state. I would never want to go there.

Reply To polishknight - Is my age putting me at a disadvantage?

Overkill_Engine
16h ago 2026-08-02 12:28:13 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
WAATGM Endorsed

It never seems to occur to these women that the longer the list of desirable traits that a man has, the larger the probability that same man wants nothing to do with them in particular and it only gets worse as these women get older and more baggage and liability ridden.

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throwaway_old_guy
11h ago  The Hub

@woodsmoke

Sorry I missed the first post regarding this.

I am glad to hear it went well and seems to be a success.

Now, the hard part of recovering begins. It will take a lot of restraint to NOT get up and start doing the things that need to be done.

Stay down as much as possible, enjoy it while you can.

Reply To Seagram7 - Single mom laments that it is so hard to find a good man because of racism. It's not because of racism, it's because you're a single mom in the first place

Seagram7
5h ago 2026-08-02 23:52:39 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Jr. Hamster Analyst

This post may be controversial, but I really theorize that her blaming racism is a cope. This is the typical response from MOST men that have their act together. They do not want to wife up a single mother. White, black or whatever, a man that is in the "Good Man" category do not take single mothers seriously. That is what her rant should be about, the difficulty of finding a "Good Man" as a single mother, not blame racism.

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First-light
1d ago  The Hub

@Kloi Hoes show that women can be very nice when they want to be. Its astonishing how women can be so nice when they think they are going to benefit, yet ignore a man from whom they benefit greatly daily.

Its all about what they are getting, not what they have. Somehow a LTR needs to still leave her wanting to work to get more not take for granted what she has.

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