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polishknight
11m ago WhereAllTheGoodMenAre Forum

The cost of women's hypergamy: They cannot fully know love and value it little

This is in regards to a rather thoughtful recent video made by a female matchmaker dissecting the ultra-hypergamy and entitlement of an aging hypergamist career woman: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/325297/nothing_redpills_women_harder_than_working_as_a_professional

I've posted on the paradox of Hypergamy, but let's now explore how hypergamy forces women to abandon love.
https://www.forums.red/p/whereallthegoodmenare/324971/the_paradox_of_strong_and_independent_career_women_hypergamy

Eff Dee Ess defines hypergamy for women, for those few women who can't seem to "get" the concept, that relationships with men are ONLY valid if she gets more out of it than he does. Ironically, when men are as mercenary as women, the system breaks down as Scott Adams, RIP, cleverly points out:  https://imgur.com/a/E44dHAw

Hypergamy is a game of chicken and/or musical chairs: https://youtu.be/_nIwitIOeUM

They're gambling with their family's future simply to have a brag they got a deal sort of like scoring a below wholesale buy at a car dealership.

Ponder that for a moment: They regard their future husband and father of their children with the same emotional detachment as firesale business transaction. They also gamble with their family's future "I'd rather die alone than settle!" versus fathers, including me, who would throw ourselves under a bus in a microsecond to save our daughter and likely also our wife as well? Why?

Because I couldn't live with myself if I didn't. Not that society would judge me as unchivalrous but because, despite my wife's hypergamy and many other annoyances, I love her (I tell this to halfway decent women I know and they go "awww!") Love isn't something for me that's a weakness preventing me from scoring a free meal or some social status but rather the opposite: I do value someone being there for me even if, gasp, I have to PAY for it. Love to me about personal sacrifice which, ironically, makes love a largely masculine trait doesn't it?

Another cultural reference. "But surely you can't put a price on your family's lives!"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kpuyVkqP68&t=89s

Which women get this kind of love even if they don't truly value it at the same degree men do? This brings to mind Gandalf saying to Frodo in LotR: "Deserves it! I dare say he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Smart women with minimal hypergamy and a heart, deserve it and find it. They marry young or they at least have some perception of market value. They don't go to the car dealership demanding a Rav4 at below MSRP on Tax Day.

The traditional image we have of women are as selfless mothers and wives. For example, like Scarlett the cat that rushed back into a fire to rescue her kittens (be warned, this is onion crying material):  https://youtu.be/Oz9xdz1dDuk

When Scarlet died, her picture went up on the Times Square Jumbotron: https://www.facebook.com/ScarlettTheHeroCat/photos/the-jumbotron-in-times-square-announcing-scarletts-passing-/1118397879858479/

Aging women who become even MORE demanding, entitled, and even unpleasant are difficult to feel empathy for. Although the film The Materialists was full of lame cultural tropes, this scene is gold and similar to the above actual woman client:  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZIJwHq6pzCQ

Bottom line: women's hypergamy is a philosophy but also a strategy that, even when successful, requires a denial of love. I've read several times them saying: "A woman should love a man just slightly less than he loves her" but this level of "equality" is similar to financial hypergamy like the recent doctor suffered. How does one manage "just below" hypergamy? Doctor babe who earns "just below" her husband at 95% and she gets a raise, and pretty soon the whole marriage is destabilized because "He just was miserable with my success and the chemistry wasn't there!" So 60% is more likely safer meaning women deny themselves love in exchange for Power.

And this is when it actually WORKS!!! This is when they actually WIN the game of hypergamy musical chairs!

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Typo-MAGAshiv
15h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@Jocbro I've told you many times over the last few years that you need to check out the stuff at r/MarriedRedPill

Also check out Rian Stone's YouTube channel and his first two praxeology books

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First-light
2h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv Yeah but when you want kids its an invidious choice. The law should allow men to be the best father they can without facing terrible consequences. We need to fight this not just say "too bad losers"

I cohabit for the daughter I share with my lady. I did this thinking I would be safe I case of a break up and I chose to allow my daughter's mother to freeload off me for my daughter's sake. This position is already a net loss to me. Sex, housework and cooking (some grudging) do not equate in value to a free home and bills and food.

This is not a nice thing to have to write but I will review my position if this is passed as law. Sorry but that is how it is.

The big socialist state will eat us all if we let it.

    

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First-light
2h ago  The Hub

Bozza has alerted us to something very serious. The UK government intends to legislate to mean that live in girlfriends can take your house, money, income and pension in the same way that wives can on breakup.

The last time the UK had a labour government they had a consultation about it and decided it would be unfair to legislate in this way. This time they are consulting again. The Fabian Society want this. It will happen if we don't stand up to it.

Please spread this link to all men you know (and wealthy women with live in boyfriends)

consult.justice.gov.uk/digital-communications/a-fairer-end-to-relationships-consultation/

Fill in the form. Tell them to go to hell. It just might prevent a huge erosion of men's rights. The form does not appear to check up on who you are so just fill it in and tell them to shove it. This would be a huge grab of power by the big state.

Marriage is widely available for those who want it. Those who choose not to marry do so because they do not want the legal consequences. To then suddenly force them on millions of couples is grossly unfair.

Of course it is better personally not to cohabit but many men have chosen to do so for the sake of their children. To make them vulnerable when they have made a choice altruistically would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

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JudgeSmales
3h ago 2026-06-06 10:35:27 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum
Jr. Hamster Analyst

Average looking in my opinion.

At least the matchmaker leveled with her, though she could have stopped with the "first bucket." High-earning guys want a women who is "very pretty, very young," and Ms. High Six-Figures doesn't qualify.

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Vermillion-Rx
8h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

Even if it's not 100% rapport then hi for your looksmatch and value match and then do rapport

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Vermillion-Rx
8h ago  The Hub
Trillionaire Admin

@Jocbro

Rapport issue

Keep telling you that

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Vermillion-Rx
8h ago  TheRedPill
Admin

Most women do not understand that the grass is green where they water it

Stay away from those women unless you can make them short term

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Typo-MAGAshiv
15h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@Bozza MGTOW dudes have been saying for years:

don't marry. don't cohabitate.

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Treadmill
9h ago 2026-06-06 04:20:51 WhereAreAllTheGoodMen Forum

She is so deluded by her fantasy that she fails to see the basics of home economics. She wants to be a stay at home housewife, with a husband and kids. Yet she also wants the same material standard of living that she has a a high-earning woman. She claims that for that reason, she wants a husband who earns the same as her.

Except that is not enough. He will obviously need to earn way more than her, as his income will be supporting at least two people. So her requirements are even less reasonable than they appear at first. It is essentially not possible. What she wants is akin to winning the lottery.

Realisticially, there are two options for modern women, neither of which she is willing to choose. The first is to become a stay-at-home wife, but accept that you will have less money than before. Cut out the expensive vacations and fancy dinners. This is still doable on a single income and many men would be happy with such an arrangement. Alternatively, you keep working so you can keep your material conditions.

Unfortunately for them, these women are clearly choosing the secret third option: Stay single and hope to one day win the lottery whilst bitterly complaining about men.

As an aside, it bothers me how ready she is to give up her career. She must have studied and worked hard for it, yet apparently she doesn't care for her work at all. Where is the sense of duty to her field, her coworkers, or her patients? A male physician would never be so callous.

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