@adam-l Well that was interesting. I started out thinking "This looks poorly founded, I am not sure what conclusions can be reached form such a foundation" Breaking societies into theistic, zoistic and manistic seemed a bit arbitrary. Confining oneself to a few civilisations, many of which had vanished before any kind of accurate information about demography was available seemed likely to end badly and so on.

On the other hand the conclusions seem to fit well with what we have now. So certainly interesting.

I think decadence in a society and entropy are two different ways of looking at the same problem and a bit chicken and egg. Decadence leads to entropy, which leads to decadence but which is the actual cause of the rot.

Is for example unbridled female sexuality the cause of the problem -decadence in society means that the family breaks down and there is really nothing for young men to strive for any more or just the result of cultural entropy that has left people standing on the success and prosperity of their forebears with nothing much to do but "drink and smoke and screw" as Jarvis the lefty cockhead wrote.

@First-light

arctotherium.substack.com/p/review-of-j-d-unwins-sex-and-culture

This is an extremely interesting analysis.

Unwin has a ftamework that combines the Right with the Left perspective: the Left corresponds, roughly, in "internal expansion", what used to be called progress, while the Right is at least open to "external expansion".

Under this schema, what passes as "the Left" in the West, in the past few decades, is really another name for right-wing policies. Humanitarian wars and neoliberal policies have nothing to do with what the Left stood up for.

In any case, what that framework offers is the view that women repurpose energy that could be used elsewhere, to be directly consumed by their vanity.

As far as I'm personally concerned, I'm in for internal expansion, and I'm against external expansion. Not because the later it's unrealistic, it might as well be very realistic. It has to do with my personal taste and my stubborn idea that I will inpose my will on the world.