Think I mentioned this earlier re "plates bouncing back".

Recently, been dealing with the most random behaviour from ex-plates. Bouncing back and then bouncing off, and I can't really wrap my head around it.

Plate 1:

After months of no contact, she messages me out of the blue and invites me to her apartment. I come around, we have a few drinks. She gets out the lingerie and all the stops like she's trying to impress me. We fuck. Next morning she begs me to stay (which I did). We go out for some wholesome day. We fuck some more. She cooks me dinner etc. She gives me loads of food as I leave. Messaging me all the way home. Next morning, one word replies, doesn't want to know me, haven't spoken since.

Plate 2:

Seeing each other for a while. We have an argument and she storms out of my apartment. Months later she turns up at my door unannounced. She then start messaging me and seeing me regularly again. Starts inviting me to events with her friends etc. Then out of nowhere, disappears again. No love lost on that one but yeah.

Plate 3:

Saw eachother for a while and then after a disagreement (probably my fuck up) she leaves. 6 months later she drunkly texts me, there’s some flirting and she invites herself back. That week, she's asking to come over every other day. Next week, I get a random text from her asking if I think shes rude. Bit confused, she eventually clarifies she's been on a date with a guy who was really rude to her, her self confidence is bad - "No you're alright, come over if you want". Maybe slightly BP but idgaf. No reply until 4 days later - "Eventually".

That won't even get a response.

But yeah. I get the concept of girls coming back for easy dick which is probably the case, but just really bizarre that all of these have happened at once.

@Jonah

28M virgin, 178 cm . Finally started getting dates but unable to move beyond first.

28M virgin, 178 cm . Finally started getting dates but unable to move beyond first.

I used to be a huge lurker back in 2019-20 on original Redpill subreddit. And learned some. Read the rational male , book of pook, sidebar numerous times and had been trying to approach women but over 7 years I got 0 dates. I am kinda average looking , slim And of avg height (178 cm). I tried bulking up but I got injury which put me out for a solid 3 years.

Right now, I am 28M virgin, Since I wasn't getting dates irl so, got good photos and downloaded hinge. Got 80 matches of which Managed to score 3 dates. All 3 unmatched after first date and didn't pursue for a 2nd one. Somehow hinge matched me with everyone who's looking for something serious . I don't know if we didn't connect or they didn't find me attractive enough. I tried doing "game", maintained a playful smile with intense eye contact, flirting constantly. I asked them about themselves, made sure to keep the conversation to themselves. Each one of them asked "How many more girls are you seeing", which to me sounded like it's going good as they don't ask this, unless they're attracted. I also maintained high energy, agreed and amplified (like they asked why did you choose this place away from your home , I just said I put on the big map of rhe city blindfolded myself and see where it landed. ( It was just close to her place)

But at the same time, they rejected physical touch, and would not dance when I asked. They also didn't compliment me at all, which sounds like again they weren't attracted to me.

This looks like a constant pattern, I am able to get first dates but no escalations beyond that. I have not able to meet anyone without apps in the past 7 years, approaching hasnt worked and I am not sure how to proceed as a virgin at almost 30. Please help me out.

TLDR (through gpt):

28M, average-looking, virgin. Spent years consuming Redpill content and trying to approach women IRL with no success. Recently switched to Hinge, got ~80 matches and 3 first dates, but all ended after the first meet.

On dates, used playful “game,” high energy, teasing, and focused conversation on them. They asked if he was seeing other girls (seemed like interest), but rejected physical escalation and didn’t show strong attraction signals.

Pattern: can get first dates via apps, but no second dates or physical progression. Unsure whether it’s lack of attraction, connection, or approach. Looking for direction on what to change

It reads like you're getting back into dating after a hiatus, but you're noticing something is off regarding your social skills. If you've any friends and acquaintances you've noticed similar problems with, try and get feedback regarding your interactions with them to help you identify the problem. It's probably for the best that you focus on your professional life, exercise, diet, and communication skills.

In the meantime, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.