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@Bozza I'd say you are in good shape if she plans to stay at your place. She won't be on the sofa.
All women like players, some just fear to get played. This is not a case of seducing her, its a case of letting her give herself permission to do something she clearly already wants to do.
This is golden. He did his part, she's already been seduced. It's just a matter of time before she allows her hamster to spin up some sort of excuse that makes sleeping with Bozza kosher.
her friend told her I'm a player and that she should stay away from me.
Her friend most definitely did tell her that which probably put up some resistance. Could also be why she didn't want to be seen escalating with you.
I do find it odd kissing was the issue not the pussy touching but I've dealt with similar from Hispanic women from actually religious families.
Everything was on the table, including anal after awhile but I couldn't hit the pussy because "I'm saving myself."
Almost all these girls ended fucking on a long enough time scale of being plated. Sometimes years later after they'd opened their legs for boyfriends.
@MentORPHEUS which is why some of the old guard are not on trp.red
@MentORPHEUS I'm not going to throw shade but I know of at least 2 who have told me in private that they are trying to distance from the red pill branding due to its association with misogyny. That's not explicitly purple pill but it's walking in that direction in my opinion.
Dating is truly the worst it has ever been - even for good looking, well off guys. (Not to toot my own horn)
Here is a compilation of the past year of my dating life - interested in hearing your guys opinions.
Out of probably 50-60 dates, these are the ones that come to mind. The rest either ghosted me after first date or I just had no interest. No relationship material has come from this. 80/20 dating apps/in person meeting
I believe that is known as "Halal in the streets, Haram in the sheets"
@Bozza Sounds like it will happen when she is ready. Too many green lights from her for her not to want it.
If she chooses the couch first time around, its no loss. All women like players, some just fear to get played. This is not a case of seducing her, its a case of letting her give herself permission to do something she clearly already wants to do. Once you establish that you offer a genuine connection with someone who cares about her feelings and reputation without asking anything in return but to enjoy mutual pleasure, she will very probably soften fast.
Women from conservative backgrounds with different gender roles know men and women can't really be friends. So they don't go and sleep over at the houses of men that they won't sleep with at all. Its just the usual thing of she has to feel relaxed and keen enough. Then it will just happen, particularly if you don't push her into having to say "No" but let her heat up naturally till she can't think of anything but "I love this, when is he going to hurry up and escalate?"
If you seemed blocked at heavy make out stage, waiting for her to get heated up in a make out session and then being a discrete gentleman and suggesting getting a hotel room might help break through reticence? No chance of your house mate and his girl learning about it if she doesn't tell. What has she to lose? She already knows she wants to. If she doesn't accept, it will definitely spin her hamster wheel up thinking what she missed.
Read MoreBasically my house mate started dating an Iranian girl. She ended up bringing her friend over to stay the weekend. Soon as we locked eyes I knew it was on.
Lots of IoIs but escalating was difficult. We got back to mine, alone. She was much more receptive. But it was odd. She didn't mind me touching her inner thighs and touching her pussy. But kissing was too much for her. Go figure.
I went to escalate further and she shut it down - saying her friend told her I'm a player and that she should stay away from me. That was some LMR I wasn't able to push past.
She came back another weekend to stay. We all went out drinking. I just treated it as a bit of light hearted fun. She ends up grabbing me and kissing me. Starts screening me hard. Nothing sexual happened in the end but it got hot and heavy (in private).
She then tracks me down on Instagram, DMs me and gives me her phone number unprompted.
I've got a bunch of spare tickets to some music events I bought 6 months ago with no-one to go with. She likes similar music so I invited her to come with me - no expectations, I'd just rather go with someone cool than go alone so I don't really care.
She agreed. Said she might struggle to get home, so wants to stay at mine. Which could be a green light, but she may also decide she wants to sleep on the sofa, I don't know.
She's really hard to read.
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@Bozza Yeah that is a very controlled culture where informers are everywhere. If you look at some of the Iranian moves, you can see people living their own lives (often quite ruthlessly) in the shadows, while conforming in the daylight.
I think its also a very blue pill culture where women have a lot of rights to stuff from men and they know that this only comes with bringing a good reputation to trade for all the benefits of marriage.
I bet you have the potential to be very exotic to her -the forbidden liberated west- if you can make her believe her reputation is safe. She probably also has quite a lot of expectation of being "guarded" through life by men -having men do all the traditional provider protector roles, while she can be a bit of a princess.
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