Discussion about the 5th gen war
@Typo-MAGAshiv Academia has always tripped over itself in its rush to distinguish Marxism from Nazism when perceptive students notice that the two are essentially the same thing, and does so by making hairsplitting, immaterial distinctions. It is amusing, though, to watch those untrained in economics try to explain the difference. The only important factors are that in each, the state controls the means of production and censors and suppresses viewpoints and behavior the state opposes. That makes them equivalent, like you say.
"But, but, Marxists want to control the means of production to help the working classes, not to oppress them, so that makes it way different from Nazism." Uh huh. That worked out great in Cambodia, didn't it? It's never worked that way anywhere.
Mother Fucking phone!! The text editing interface sucks balls, and autocorrect is still mysteriously BROKEN.
The differences between Nazis and Soviets were minute. You make them sound like kindred spirits, even allies. Yet 27 MILLION Russians got killed fighting the Nazis tenaciously on the Eastern Front. Hitler might well have prevailed had he not put so many resources into pushing toward Moscow.
While their nationalism was important to them, so too was their socialism, including seizing the means of production. Again, leftist, almost even communist
Here's where your understanding goes definitionally wrong. Perhaps by conflating, opposite of me, modern incarnation of American Right = must lie on far left of spectrum!
Nazis stand on a far right position of Fascism. Unlike Marxist Leftists who want to seize the means of production from the Oligarch class and spread it through and thus empower the Working Class, Fascism works by FUSING the corporate sector and means of production TO the state, toward consolidating state legal/legislative power and economic power and control into a hard right entity with full control over the Working Class masses. They demand loyalty of the workers to the all powerful State, and enforce this with ruthless and brutal state force.
You are missing how much the same is happening in American politics now- fusion of the Oligarch corporate class with the state, and hard right suspension of the Constitutional protections of the masses from concentration of power which our Founding Fathers wisely spread out and separated.
just repeating the lies taught to you by your leftist education systems
You here are repeating the Neocon lies that worked well on the cohort including my Boomer Dad, who would literally SCREAM "Filthy commie SCUM!!!" at the TV whenever a Soviet athlete placed in an Olympics competition. Us kids would think from the other room, "Jeez, Dad- way to completely miss the entire spirit of the Olympics!"
I see you expressing a "Right Good, Left BAD" mental distinction, that runs on emotion and well meaning patriotism, but is not connected to the rational categorizing and analytical mental functions. That's a hook that Fascists knowingly exploit.
Read More@MentORPHEUS the people calling themselves "Palestinians" aren't those people you're talking about. Those people have been exterminated and bred out over the centuries, primarily by the Arab Muslims who now call themselves Palestinians.
Iran is about the only country in that area with their original ethnicity (Iranians aka Persians). The original Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, etc were all exterminated and bred out by conquering Arab Muslims.
1) We conquered it, and it's in our interest to keep what we've conquered.
If you identify yourself as such, you legitimize indiscriminately killing you
How do you figure? Even if the US and any native tribes were at war, I'm a civilian and therefore not a legal target.
And again, they can have full citizenship and participate in everything that I do, and receive preferential treatment over everyone else including blacks when it comes to getting government jobs.
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The patent absurdity of miracle bone structure stopping a 30.06 round in the victims neck, STILL wasn't enough to keep Typo from But, Butting the official narrative across 4 bullet points
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@MentORPHEUS that sounds silly as hell, but bullets behave strangely when they enter a body.
Official Narrative
Is there even one of those yet? I keep seeing conflicting shit.
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B) why would a hunter use a round that would ruin the meat?
A trophy hunter, who doesn't want to have to track the wounded animal miles farther from his car to retrieve the head
Fair enough, but the "blowing organs out of a moose" you described sounds more like .50 cal than .30-06.
Caveat: I've never fired that round (.30-06) myself, but I know lots of people who have. It usually doesn't do the kind of mega-damage you're describing, though it can happen. As I said earlier, rifle rounds can do strange things once they enter a body, and I've seen dinky-ass 5.56 blast the entire back of someone's skull while exiting but somehow leave their brain intact (but on the ground, severed from the spine), and I've seen them leave no exit wound but tumble around inside a torso and destroy all the non-skeletal organs, turning the corpse into soup encased in skin.
Point is, you can't accurately predict exactly what every single bullet will do, every single time. There are always variables at play that we can't know or account for.
And I'm still seeing conflicting shit about whether there was an exit wound or not. And I still refuse to watch that man die, as I've seen enough gruesome death for a lifetime.
not carefully selected for a human neck
As I said back here:
I think he aimed center-mass but hit the neck
Most people skilled enough to take a neck shot would still aim center-mass to reduce the risk of missing
I genuinely think he just happened to hit him there.
[crap about Israel]
No way in hell would murdering him be in their interests. No way in hell is it in the interest of any foreign power. They'd be simultaneously committing an act of war and a war crime. Stupidly suicidal.
Read More@adam-l @Stigma @Deepthroat and @MSNBCorpheus, er, @mentorpheus (since I see that you starred all 3 of their replies), I'll get you all in one fell swoop here.
Bottom line, up front: you are all wrong, and just repeating the lies taught to you by your leftist education systems. Nazis are leftist. The differences between Nazis and Soviets were minute.
Hitler himself denied anything to do with Marxists
A) And he was just well-known for never practicing any kind of deceit, huh? What happened to "ignore what they say, watch what they do"?
B) and "Caitlin" Jenner denies being a man.
They're are socially right, economically left
Can't really be "socially right" when instituting leftist socialist programs.
but overall they buck the left/right dichotomy and present a nationalist vs globalist argument.
While their nationalism was important to them, so too was their socialism, including seizing the means of production. Again, leftist, almost even communist.
From the man himself:
"Socialism," [Hitler] retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
1) See A in what I replied to Adam.
2) if Hitler isn't being deceitful, then this quote kind of makes my point for me.
Razorfist explains this better and more thoroughly detailed than I have time for, including a lot of original sources:
youtu.be/9-SLqdhkvJo?si=zxUtcZpAcsHnFIBv
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@SwarmShawarma Liberals ain't what they used to be. Same is true of Democrats. Conservatives seem to be a bit below par these days too.
I wonder what the future holds for these parties?
Will they continue to adapt or be overtaken by history. Today's liberals still think they own the "right side of history" Hybris brings its own rewards.