@adam-l

...for tens of thousands of years.

Marriage as an institution is probably not older than ten thousand years. That's too short, evolutionary. If you are talking about the "natural" way to raise kids, it was more the band, rather than the family. Paternity certainly was low back then, and most fathering was done from the male hunter group, rather than the biological father.

Not that anything similar is possible today, of course, but we might draw insights.

You're side stepping the matter where there needs to be a defined foundation of our understanding of several topics for this discussion to advance. Before anyone can identify or develop alternatives to the known and proven best means by which children can be raised, one must first understand why bastards, marriage failure, and divorce occurs. They must also understand what benefits, and negatives, the involved parties receive from, your words, not mine, "marriage as an institution" that can and/or cannot be replicated in co-parenting situations.

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@adam-l

when you have children, the priority is (should be) their wellbeing, rather than getting your dick wet. If the chance of a destructive divorce is so high in current society, we might as well discuss the viability of a co-parenting arrangement without romantic involvement. I.e. get to the best-case post-divorce state preemptively. That's if you insist on having kids.

To be clear, I'm not advocating for it. I want to hear opinions, though.

The reason men want to get their penises wet, is because all males have a burning need to procreate. Now, while I'm sure co-parenting methods maybe an interesting social experiment for those who are currently divorcing, divorced, or already raising children out of wed-lock, I don't believe they're a viable alternative for couples who wish to have children.

A man and woman coming together and laying a strong foundation for a family through marriage has demonstrated itself to be the chief pre-requisite to having and successfully raising children. This occurrence, while not essential to the perpetuation of our species, has been a pre-requisite to maintaining, and developing, civilization for tens of thousands of years. It has enabled countless generations of men to develop their children to be potentially better, more accomplished people than they were themselves. Given the time civilization has been around, if a comparable viable alternative existed, I'm confident that it would've been in practice for some time by now.

I understand that you're not advocating for co-parenting, but it reads to me that while curious of the idea, your concern is the understandably valid fear of marriage failure and a subsequent divorce. If we're going to discuss co-parenting, we also need to be aware of what are the known and suspected contributing factors to marriage failure.