@MentORPHEUS

I've seen it from multiple sources [blather blather blather]

Yeah, all biased liars like yourself.

If I rolled my eyes any harder, they'd be stuck back there.

I haven't seen any evidence that the committed right wingers i know ever spent 2 minutes of serious objective consideration on the question of whether or not Orange Man is, in verifiable fact, bad.

Bullshit. More lies.

I'll quote myself from this post in which I had tagged you at the time:

In 2016, I thought Trump was a blowhard who was only in the race to weaken the Republicans in the primary so that his old friend Hillary would have an easier victory. When he ended up getting the nomination, I was pissed off, but I had learned from 2008 and wasn't going to sit this one out. Hillary probably would have been even worse than Obama. I wasn't voting for Trump so much as I was voting against Hillary.

When he ended up winning, I decided to keep an open mind and give Trump a chance (something "liberals" such as you and MSNBCorpheus er @mentorpheus should try).

He ended up being the best President in my lifetime, possibly ever.

I gladly voted for him again in 2020 and 2024, and I do not regret it one bit. No one I know IRL regrets it either. More on our lack of regret in a moment.

Straight up, you're just a hater. A closed-minded hater who willingly blinds himself to reality and is willing to believe any rumor, no matter how ridiculously far-fetched, that confirms your bias that "Orange Man bad".

@MentORPHEUS

I've seen it from multiple sources [blather blather blather]

Yeah, all biased liars like yourself.

If I rolled my eyes any harder, they'd be stuck back there.

I haven't seen any evidence that the committed right wingers i know ever spent 2 minutes of serious objective consideration on the question of whether or not Orange Man is, in verifiable fact, bad.

Bullshit. More lies.

I'll quote myself from this post in which I had tagged you at the time:

In 2016, I thought Trump was a blowhard who was only in the race to weaken the Republicans in the primary so that his old friend Hillary would have an easier victory. When he ended up getting the nomination, I was pissed off, but I had learned from 2008 and wasn't going to sit this one out. Hillary probably would have been even worse than Obama. I wasn't voting for Trump so much as I was voting against Hillary.

When he ended up winning, I decided to keep an open mind and give Trump a chance (something "liberals" such as you and MSNBCorpheus er @mentorpheus should try).

He ended up being the best President in my lifetime, possibly ever.

I gladly voted for him again in 2020 and 2024, and I do not regret it one bit. No one I know IRL regrets it either. More on our lack of regret in a moment.

Straight up, you're just a hater. A closed-minded hater who willingly blinds himself to reality and is willing to believe any rumor, no matter how ridiculously far-fetched, that confirms your bias that "Orange Man bad".

@Typo-MAGAshiv I've seen it from multiple sources, from one of the earliest releases of Epstein material. In addition to the DOJ removing the more damning items from their official site, Google search results on these have gotten massively flooded out with deliberate and obviously false results Meaning, instead of the transparency and revelation of Epstein material promised by Trump, the massive cover up proceeds apace. Like virtually all the other outspokenly right wing people I interact with long term, you never show any progress toward epiphany that there exists legitimate choice for us common Americans in the political system. That there never has existed any meaningful diffenxw between team right left red blue. That Biden, Obama, Clinton served the same class of masters as Trump, Bush, Bush, Reagan, and Nixon. I don't see any effort at deep analysis of our system, just superficial cheering for a "side" supported by small cherry picked and curated individual disconnected turd nuggets. I haven't seen any evidence that the committed right wingers i know ever spent 2 minutes of serious objective consideration on the question of whether or not Orange Man is, in verifiable fact, bad.