@Bozza

I'd have to know more about your typical interactions with women but honestly just some minor communication changes can convey a ton of rapport without losing frame

I don't know enough about how you interact with your women but just consider it's probably something you could change slightly without sacrificing your goals

As much as I hate Frank Luntz, i learned a massive lesson from his quote:

It's not what you say it's what people hear

Girls are heavily responsive to phrasing. Two guys that mean exactly the same thing could say it a different way and get different results

@Vermillion-Rx Think I might need to calibrate, but we're still early days so not enough data points to go on yet.

My problem is that I generally lean quite cold in terms of emotion, and always have done. My ex left me because I wasn't giving her enough comfort (which I can see tbf) but I'll also take that explanation with a heavy helping of salt.

But then internally I think I run too beta and can slip into that quite easily. So it's a bit of an internal struggle really.

But we'll run a bunch more women, see what happens and then adjust accordingly.

@Bozza

Maybe you just look too high value or need to tone down some red pill to plate them.

I could be far worse than I am (fron their point of view) but I typically don't take it that far

You might have to calibrate but either way it's quite clear what she's doing

I've had some of these girls as well despite extending additional rapport to them

Sometimes you get narcissistically wounded women or some girls that feel the absolute necessity to try to clown you for whatever reason

I encounter it frequently in my night scene. They hate your success some times

@Vermillion-Rx

She is trying to play whatever she can to have you and honestly she either knows or believes she's too far beneath you for you to stick around the way she wants

Thing is, I get this fairly frequently. I got a lot of girls who will fuck me, and then get super insecure that I'm just gonna pump n dump them.

And for them, it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I don't actually enjoy pumping and dumping. I rarely ever do it unless she does something that warrants it. I much prefer plating them, spending time with them etc. I might not LTR them, but at least they get something out of it.

But half the time they end up self sabotaging, and end up as a pump n dump because of their own actions.

@Bozza

Sign of a woman who has already ridden the rollercoaster with a final boss before you and instead of learning how to beat the boss she stands in the corner trying to cheese the boss.

It's fucking pathetic but I've had it happen to me to. They'd rather cheese the boss one cheap shot at a time till she wins than actually be a direct player.

Some women just do this.

It's not your fault they are just brain rotted from all kinds of bullshit and previous alpha dick and it's not your fault

@Bozza

This is women's equivalent of sport fucking

Fucking the guy too high above them (real or imagined) and then instinctively knowing they won't get what they want out of it past that but being too proud or entitled to keep having honest fun

And the doing everything they can to whittle down the guys ego and make him wonder why she won't fuck again because her ego is so damn high she gets more pleasure out of trying to control a man out of her reach than fucking him again

This is sport fucking for women. It's not entirely physical (although it can be). Like I said a week or so ago some women are so jaded and broken they will get off more on punishing alphas than fucking them (again)

@Bozza

She fucked a lot because you were good and made her feel alive

Then she remembered all the other times this has happened

She's full of shit dude. Her friends shit. Feminism's shit

This is her sour grapes girls game. She is trying to play whatever she can to have you and honestly she either knows or believes she's too far beneath you for you to stick around the way she wants

And if she were to accomplish her terrible girl game she would cry up for you too.

Girls who inherently feel like they are too far beneath you will do this shit and they will hamster into oblivion and then date Billy

@redpillschool

dont livejournal post like that again that was worrying