@Larrythelobster

Day Game and Rejection

Day game based

So women give me sexual IOIs in a sober environment. Out shopping, university, gym, library.... Yet when I approach them I get rejected with "I have a boyfriend"

They'll look at me and align their ass to my crotch, sensual eye contact, get close to me. Etc...

Are women constantly emotionally cheating like this or am I missing something? Cause that sucks. Advice?

I got a good face, I'm pretty strong. But I gotta lose BF. Got a muscle dad bod. I'm working on it. But other than that I get confused.

Women wouldn't be imagining having sex with me or "playing" with me if I wasn't at least a prospect.

I'm getting back into approaching. I live in the suburbs and I'm comfortable here. But it's not great for getting loads of dates.

I have around 20 approaches in a suburban area. Most nos and I got 3 flakes. I just text logistics.

What's the ratio of how many women I'll have to approach? 100? Cause God damn. Its not like a city where you can cold approach 50 in a day. Suburbs not so much. Maybe 3-5 a week.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@kaanstks

cockblocking myself..

When I see a cute girl and feel the urge to approach (I have zero approach anxiety thanks to approaching hundreds of women), I end up cockblocking myself.

Internally, I think I’m not man enough. It’s not about her. It’s not about that one person. I know I can pull the woman I’m approaching—hell, I’m already flirting, having fun, and staying outcome-independent—but I don’t ask for her number, and I don’t even want to have sex with her. It feels like too much hassle.

It’s not that she’s out of my league or that she’s so beautiful she’ll reject me. Who cares? What really bothers me is that I know my potential. I was once in incredible shape—mentally, physically, and spiritually strong; resilient and disciplined. I think this goes deeper than women. I want that man back. I need to work on this.

What’s your opinion on this? I’m not looking for advice like “approach more” or “fuck more.” I want to keep this philosophical. Is there anything I’m missing in the bigger picture?

Ps. I had a lot of partners in the past, I know what woman is, what sex is, what abundance mentality, spinning plates, oneitis is etc. These are not my problem.

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@MclAdw

Would you consider it cheating if your LTR has deleted a texting conversation with another man to hide it from me?

I have been with my LTR for 8 years and I was on her phone after a clubbing night because my phone had died. I was listening to music on YouTube while she was cooking breakfast.

An Instagram message notification popped up which was another man (we'll name him John) from a previous job she used to work at messaging her. I quickly clicked onto the message to check and scrolled through insanely quickly, but I couldn't read the messages because she then came back into the room a few times, it's funny because she would never come into the room as much as she did when cooking me breakfast (it was as if she was checking up on me and was worried I was on her phone). She didn't know I saw the message.

In the end, I didn't ask her about it or pull her up on it and carried on as normal.

A few days ago, I felt like throwing a test her way so I asked her as a joke if she wanted to swap phones - there was no reason for me to go on her phone at that moment in time, but I wanted to gauge her reaction. Her response wasn't great and she was spouting the 'don't you trust me' bollocks and I ended the conversation by saying it was a joke (we never swapped phones).

I have recently found out (after me asking to go onto her phone as a test), that she has deleted the Instgram messages between her and John. Please note that she doesn't delete messages because every other message was still there when she was scrolling through her message list, besides the conversation with her and John.

How can I attack this?

For example, I'm going to message her out of the blue saying something along the lines of: I'm going to ask you a very serious question now and this is your ONLY chance to be honest with me about what has happened because if you lie to me, we're finished.

'I have received a message from someone saying you have seen another man behind my back (I don't actually know whether she has seen/fucked him or not, I am just trying to extract information because she thinks someone else is involved by messaging me and she will assume I can just ask this person messaging me if she tries to lie) and I will see if she comes clean about what she has been doing

What do you think?

Only that you should consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

It reads like you've already gotten enough information to figure that she's keeping something from you. Your gut's telling you that something's wrong, so definitely pay attention. Hopefully, you two don't live together or have kids with each other, so you can make a clean break and move on with your life. If not, you may want to put together a quiet plan that factors in the need to keep what you know to yourself as you build up the momentum to engage a hard break. Regardless of what you decide, best of luck to ya.

@Wartortle

Slept with a friend? Where do I stand? Is it over?

Background

• I’m 29. Lots of relationships, always end as it don’t want kids or marriage. Currently in an open relationship.
• she is 39, two daughters and going through a divorce
• met her via mutual friends. Over the last few months we gotten close over various social events. She doesn’t come to much as she is busy but she always comes when I’m 100% certain to be there. She gets very jealous when other girls speak to me.

Party and sleeping with her

• we was at a party, we spent all night together. We kiss slightly a few times but she pulls away. She says I have a girlfriend or that everyone is watches
• she tells everyone we are just friends.
• we separate but I hear that she is looking for me. I find her, we kiss and make out.
• we get a hotel room and we sleep together.

Mixed signals from her

• she tells everyone we are just friends
• while kissing and making out she says she can’t do this as she too old for me. She has too much baggage with children
• she tells me she never wants to lose me as a friend. I’ve become invaluable in her life. I’m a high point for her.
• she said she can’t be with me as I don’t even want to get married. She pulls away from kissing. I lean back and she says your not even fighting for me.

I call her the next day

• I call her to she how she is and what she wants. I tell her are we more than friends? She says she wants to keep things casual as friends. And see where this goes with no labels.
• she can’t jump into things as she never has much time with full time work and having two kids. She said is going through divorce as well.
• she doesn’t want to jump into things and ruin our friendship. She doesn’t want to lose me from her life as she wouldn’t know what do without me.
• she says she barley has time for anything and she can’t just drop her commitments for me.
• she said she has a fear of getting hurt.

What is going on?

• have I blown my chances by asking if she wants more?
• what does she want? Does she does want just friends or something more.
• is she afraid that I’m younger and therefore could leave at anytime? Thus losing me all together?

What should I do?

• when I next see her act like it never happened and just flirt and be friends like before or maybe ignore her and let her feel what life is without me?

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@Bombastic

How do i break up with my crazy "gf"?

I put my dick in crazy and dont know how to take it out. I saw the sign early in, she was manipulative and emotionally unstable, daddy issues, divorced parents, abandonment issues etc. You know the drill. She is a 10 and ive had the best sex of my life with her, i protected myself and never commited to a relationship, never told her we are Bf and Gf, however i think ive spinned this plate too hard. When i realized the headaches were not worth the sex anymore, it was too late. Everytime i mention 'moving on' she gets into crazy fits, she is very unstable right now and honestly, i care too much about her to leave her like this. I would like some advice from people who have been through the same thing, no theoretical answers please. I know tha 'moving away and going no contact' will be the first answer, but its not really who i am, i cant do it like that. I'm no fool and i know i cant do this without hurting her, but i need advice on how to break up in the nices way possible for her. Any tricks?

@Gyaunsi67

What exactly is my girlfriend doing?

Hi! I have a girlfriend and we have a sexual relationship.

Last week, I got into a real brutal fight with her one and only long time best friend who is male. He brutally beat me up in the fight in front of her which left my face suffering bone fractures. The fight happened due to him hating me and I don't know why. I feel like there is no reason. He's so strange. They were best friends before I met her. They are the same age while I am 3 years older than her.

Due to his gym habits, her best friend is muscular with six-pack-abs and big biceps and he is also physically stronger than most people his age such as when it comes to lifting, pulling, pushing, etc. He is also physically robust and strong due to constant manual labor. Also, he is a high-level hardcore MMA fighter while my girlfriend is a hardcore MMA fan.

But here's the weird part about my girlfriend.

After he brutally beat me up, she often hero-worships his MMA fighter identity in front of me, brags to me how amazing of a warrior he is, and how stronger and braver and more fearless he is than me. When I politely disagree neutrally and try to offer a logical explanation why, she often trash talks me about how her male best friend will destroy me easily like how rival NFL fans trash talk each other.

He is literally her idol and she thinks that he is the strongest, most badass person she ever met personally or knows in close proximity.

In front of me and after he brutally beat me up for no reason, she often hero-worships him(like how an overly enthusiastic little boy fans over his favorite male superhero) by saying to me that he has the face of a strong mythical brave legendary heroic young warrior chivalrous knight champion male. She was talking about his facial structures and his face's physical appearance when she said that. She wasn't referring to his personality or skills when she said that.

Honestly, she already hero-worships him these ways before I even met her but doing it after he brutally beat me up? Strange.

Seriously, what the fuck is happening and why is she acting like this to me?

Also, she said this to me:

“Babe, you are my boyfriend but my idol hero and warrior demigod is him.”

And then I was like “What the fuck?”.

What's wrong is that your slut girlfriends pair-bonding ability is completely atrophied, which is just as well. Be sure to DNA test any children any female in the future claims you fathered. Demigods have a habit of siring bastards.

Beyond that, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@universitythrowaway

Is she trying to get me to be a provider?

Went on a date with a girl I met at a bar. Got drinks, paid for it. Went bar hopping. K-closed, kino, hand holding, etc. suggested to listen to music at her place because she lives alone. But she had her friend over so she said she can’t.

Now a week later I suggest a second date. This time cooking food at her place with some wine. She shit tests saying “hmm cooking where exactly”. I tell her at her place as long as she keeps her hands to herself.

She replies saying she doesn’t think we’re there yet. And it’s too early to invite me to her place.

Not sure if she’s interested in fucking but just takes a date or two more, or just uninterested and using me as a provider or for long term prospects.

Either way I’m planning to leave her on read or just a quick acknowledge message.

This is a non-issue. A chick you met at a bar, and showed too much interest in turned you down, twice. She gave you the out so take it and move on with your life.

Stop wasting our time hoping we'll validate your ego. Study the book so that you're actually prepared to engaging females.

@Machiaspinner

Is it just a matter of time untill this plate will break

Hello everyone

I've been seeing this girl for about two months. She lives in another city (1h by car) where I have some friends, so I only go there once a month. She's 21F, around a 7.5/10, and the first dates went really well , she showed interest, escalation was smooth.

On our second date we made out, but I had to go back to my city. She later came to visit me, I invited her to dinner, we hooked up and she spent the night. I saw her again when I went to her city, we slept together again.

The issue started when I told her I had a “surprise” for her. What I meant was that I was going to give her a very good time in bed , and I did , she complimented me at bed but who cares she can say this to everyone . She later mentioned she was “waiting for the surprise,” and I got the impression she was expecting something material, which I’m not doing.

Then she reached out again, saying she wanted to come to my city, but she kept pushing to know exactly what we were going to do and if it gonna be more interesting than last times , almost like if my plan didn’t impress her, she wouldn’t come. I told her to come and discover, but she kept insisting. After that she sent me some sexy picture in the lingerie she was wearing last time , and asked me if i miss the red cold , i liked the picture and told her i like red color and looking to see what she gonna wear next time in order to not seem needy .

Looking back, the problem is that I positioned myself as a provider. She’s a student, and I paid for all the dates and now she’s pushing for more. She does show some qualities for an LTR, but since it would be long-distance, I’m questioning if it’s worth it especially that she is hypersexual.

So now I’m wondering: Should I see her one last time and close it properly, or should I just walk away and consider this plate done (She is the only plate i sleep with i have now ,but i'm seeing other girls , scarcity...) ?

Some guys come through here claiming to be banging overseas, while many don't. Whether they are or not isn't the point. What you might consider long distance for yourself, another guy might at worst see as just a mildly tedious commute, as such, 'long distance' won't apply in this situation due those variables. In time, you might be able to realize more convenient fornication opportunities, but I don't imagine you achieving them with this chick without some serious headache.

For now, you should study the book and limit how much time a month you spend on her. This female being a college student usually means that she's both sexually more experienced with guys than you are with females and earns a low-income, so whenever you take her out her empty purse shouldn't be a surprise.

That you value your professional time and energy differently than your personal time and energy is the problem, which is why so many guys position themselves as a provider. Unfortunately, the situation is that your game is inferior to this females ability to manipulate men. Your willingness to spend time communicating with her remotely, expend energy traveling by car to spend time with her, and your eagerness to host her at your place not only revealed your level of interest, but also made her aware that she's got no competition for you.

That she's been willing to travel to your place suggests that so far you haven't done anything to kill her interest, which is good, but you should definitely listen to your gut and continue engaging other females so as to create abundance through stacking plates. I'd also suggest that you seriously reconsider how you value your personal the time and energy differently than how you value the time and energy you spend at work.