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The only women that have actually pursued me have been fat/unattractive women
Because they're bottom of the barrel, and have to take some initiative if they want sex with an attractive man.
Most women, even those slightly below average, won't do shit initiative-wise. The closest they come is sending IOIs aka choosing signals in the hopes that you notice and take initiative.
so maybe I should go for them
If you want.
and just eat viagra or something to lose my khhv status
I advise against using drugs. If a woman is so unattractive that a young man doesn't get a boner from her naturally, then maybe she's just truly unfuckable.
You're not special. The forumula doesn't magically change because [fill in the blank]
Good shit. Rian Stone says similar all the time.
@joyboy i haven't read through all the replies yet, but one thing that leaps out at me:
You do a lot of negative self-talk, and you need to stop that shit. Read that link.
Examples from your post to which I'm replying:
convincing myself I wasn’t good enough.
fix my retarded brain
When you catch yourself doing that shit, fucking stop.
On top of that, you need to overcome your fear of rejection.
I used to fear rejection too. I talked myself out of a lot of shit when I was in high school and early college, and missed out on a ton of what may have been easy lays with incredibly attractive women because I didn't try. When I started learning and applying pickup (no Red Pill back then), I started kicking myself when I realized how many opportunities I passed up.
I also came to realize that rejection wasn't really that big a deal, and once a woman rejects you, forget she exists and move on to the next one.
I'm going to echo one thing I'm seeing in some of the replies so far: you need to make an attempt, or it's likely that you'll never get laid. Women rarely take any initiative; it's on you. Welcome to manhood.
Read More@Vermillion-Rx hate to tell you this buddy, but this reply reminds me of this classic:
I’m trying to fix the root cause which is my self esteem.
Serious question do you truly like yourself? Follow up; why or why don't you like yourself?
but pretty much everybody my age (gen Z) is on the self improvement grind so it’s hard to stand out
Bull shit but I'm starting to get the picture. You'll excuse and reason your way out of every opportunity in regards to women, out of fear of rejection.
cold response after great first date
So went on a date with this girl who I thought was really attractive. Fit all the checkboxes and all that bs.
The date went really well I would say. I took her for a coffee ->then a walk -> then a bar. As the date progressed she was making hard eye contact and even asking me to make future plans. As we leave the bar she asks me to walk her home and we make out on the way there. We make out in front of her building and then i tell her good night.
After the date this was the text convo:
Me next morning: had a nice time last night, did you sleep alright? (we were both kind of passing out at the bar the night before)
Her: replies back at 5ish PM that day: had a nice time, slept well etc some bs about her day, asks me about my day and sleep
me: replies back at 12 am that night: some bs about my day, we should do it again sometime
her: replies back two days later: hearts my message, yeah definitely asks about my weekend
Me: replies the next day: just said some bs about my weekend and asked her about her weekend (i didn't really feel like asking her out after a two day response)
Her: radio silence...
Was this a fuck up in my text game after the date ? or something im missing during the date? Should i have went for the close that night?
I didn't even want to go on the date initially, she was the one that asked me out and I was surprised at how much I liked her at the end of the night.
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
Read MoreALWAYS BE CLOSING
you don't need to fuck fatties just shoot your shot dude. Some will say yes
@Vermillion-Rx > some women will want you and it's your job to try so that you can figure out which ones it it.
Yeah this part makes a lot of sense. The only women that have actually pursued me have been fat/unattractive women so maybe I should go for them and just eat viagra or something to lose my khhv status