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@Saltycroc one of the big advantages of not being married or living together, is that ending things when she's no longer adding any value to your life is easy.
It's one thing if someone is tired or has a legit reason not to fuck as a one-off. Habitual denial just to watch you squirm, whatever her dumb mouth-noises are to the contrary? She's lost attraction and worse, respect for you.
Whatever effort it would take to get those things back from her, would be better expended on new women with whom you have a fresh start. Just don't repeat any mistakes.
@Saltycroc Don't put much credence in anything she says. She isn't concerned about you losing interest. She said that because it sounds better than saying she's lost interest. What women say in these situations can't be taken at face value.
@carnold03 again, fucking knock it off with the gay-ass copy+paste of that retarded book. @mattyanon already told you several times, months ago. Quit spamming that garbage.
I'm saying this to you both as an EC and as a site administrator. You're already blowing off another one by ignoring matty's instructions. You'll be looking at a site-wide ban if you keep this crap up.
@Saltycroc The relationship is over. I'm sorry, I know it sucks.
Look, the fact is this: she's just gaslighting you now.
It will be about "don't pressure me" and "I'll want you, if you just leave me alone for long enough" and "pressure is the problem" and "I don't want this to be about sex".
Sex will always be out of reach, it will be "I don't want a nice meal to lead to sex" and "I don't want sex to lead to us getting along".
It's all gaslighting.
The brutal, cold, honest reality is this: she doesn't want you sexually.
I'm sorry, I know it sucks, but it's just that simple. Everything that she says is trying to gaslight you into making this acceptable, making it your fault.
I don't recall where this start, but I only have one question: do you have kids together?
If no kids, it's really really simple: just get out as quickly and cleanly as you can. The discussions are over. You've tried. You've really tried. Now you leave and find someone who wants you.
If kids: same deal, but more careful, more slowly, much nicer, and get legal advice.
Sorry this has happened to you, but if you've been seeing her for more than 2 years then I have to tell you that this is 100% normal.
Read MoreShe has cried a lot. Doesnt matter what she does. Depending on you plans you want to th8nk about treating sad crying depending on real world seriousness and her character
3\10 you may ignore (busy), 3\10 peck on a forehead, 3\10 make ligt fun of it, 1\10 lead and inspect. It is in her business to present a case - otherwise get exploited.
When we get home she later says that we should stop having sex for a little while because she “doesn't want us to only get on when we have just had sex”
No withdrawing sex is not the end!
If she cooks, brings you healthy home cooked foid, cleans, irons, invites her friends and you can use them, you fuck in a bedroom while she waits her turn.
The end happens because you become a beggar in your own space and she does not cobtribute, or you have no balls to make her or tell her that it's her new duties.
Any kind of relationship is possible, as long as you are remaining the benovalent master of your space and life.
You can live not being respected. Millions of men get that done every day.
It is good you didnt act emotionally. It will build you, you have had a chance to observe and learn. Imo much more important than go rambo alpha.
And yeah you can wait even longer to see how your balls crawl into a purse unless you can make some pretty nice uncommon, benefiting you rules.
Read MoreI know some people here would say when she with-drawls sex the relationship is already over
People here will say that because it's the truth.
Now, maybe, if you were married with kids, I'd suggest pulling away your attention, spending more time away from home etc.
But you're not married with kids though. She's just a girlfriend. She should be all over you at this moment in time, to the point where playing these withdrawing-sex-games would be a massive bummer to herself.
This is a simple 'next'. Either a hard next, or a soft next. In either case, you don't take her seriously again. Because you now know what the future has in store for you with this broad.
Also know that women shit test because they're unsure of their attraction to you. And that's fine early stage. But there comes a time when either the shit testing has to stop, or you need to realise this chick isn't that into you. That time is well before you give her the girlfriend status.
Dump her, or put her on the side, and in the future, only take seriously women who are undeniably into you, and don't shit test you.
Also, learn to keep your fucking cool. You don't argue over sex. It's pathetic. You either dump, or you get it elsewhere. But you don't negotiate - which is what arguing and making her cry is.
Read More@carnold03 fucking knock it off with the gay-ass copy+paste of that retarded book. @mattyanon already told you several times, months ago. Quit spamming that garbage.
LTR not wanting sex
Today
Cut out the emotional and needy behaviour and reassert yourself as a priority.
“doesn't want us to only get on when we have just had sex”
Tell her to cut out her shit, remind her she will be a used up hag in short order and she’d best get back to opening her legs before she’s demoted to rotation.
Ill tell you some details and tell me what you think.
We are both 18. I met her halloween 2025 at a mutual friends house, i plated her for a while (tbh i wasn't really spinning plates, i just wasn’t that interested in committing to her at that time and got quite a bit of attention from other girls at parties and clubs). During this time we both slept with one other person. In both cases it was a ONS.
We've been officially dating for around 3.5 months. Up until 2 weeks ago everything was hot, fun and great.
She started arguing about small things, and then i would naturally get fed up around her because of this, causing her to get more upset.
At times where i was trying to comfort her, i genuinely felt bad and acted pretty beta saying shit like “how can i prove x to you” and i think me saying shit like this killed attraction.
This is gonna sound gay as fuck but oh well.
During that time where we weren't official we were so attracted to each-other and i really did fall in love and she did too. Its pretty heartbreaking for this to happen and i do want to try and solve things
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