@MrSupreme

Expert Advice neded - Broke/Unemployed game

Hello everyone,I'll be quick here. For shithole country reasons, my financial situation has been difficult for a few years, i've struggled with unemployment for a while now, but I'm coming out of it this year with a focus on career and not just jobs. Unemployment and low money is not the issue right now, it is only a factor to take into account when gaming and approaching women here, and I am DONE being off the market.

Setting: Most girls here are broke too, unemployed and always looking for a provider guy, particulary on dating apps, There is polarization where guys are either low income or high income, almost no middle class which is where I'm at.

I go out, see guys aged 20-40 and they're all getting laid, they all have a normal love life, not a lot of marriage going around. I am half-broke,I have money to date and get laid, my basic needs are covered, and I am starting my job search as an english teacher in about a week after I get my certificate, so i'm optimistic about finally getting a stable income and a job. I won't reveal how long I've been without pussy, but Vermillion and his story comes to mind, i know it can be done.

I know many of you experienced guys have been through rough economic situations and have still managed to have plates and get laid, so here's the main question: How do i integrate conversation about my situation into gaming without scaring them off?

It has happened countless times where I'm having a fun chat,interest is growing, and the question comes along: "What do you do? What's your job?" And i'm guessing this is where I am failing, cause I have been saying stuff like "I'm finishing some studies to start this new job" "I'm coming out of unemployment in a few weeks" and stuff like that. No matter how I put it, that is the killswitch. They can be 21 year old girls looking for fun or 45 year old good looking women looking for a partner, but once they ask that and I reply I get ghosted. (most of these women are broke ass hotties or proud hard working kinda feminists,many girls asking for some kind of direct money transfer has been very common, even before a first date or even giving their number...)

So how did you guys talk about this stuff when getting your plates? Where am I failing? It has happened so much I just can't put my finger on it. Bitch if you just wanna fuck why are you vetting me like you're looking for the father of your children?

TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION: I had success when living abroad, i know I live in a very dysfunctional place, I am open to the idea that I'm not the problem here. So my answer would be to get the money first and then find the girl, simple,basic and where I'm going anyways. I'm very horny, my libido is very healthy and I know It can be done, I wouldn't be even trying if i thought otherwise.

Just reposting to the proper tribe.

If you experienced any degree of success with girls local to the places you were overseas, try your luck going after foreigners in the tourist spots. They'd likely be the most receptive to bang casually with little to no concern for how broke you are than the girls in your country.

Outside of that, the best move for you would be to study the book, engage your income situation, pay your debts, rebuild your savings, and find a stable business you can get into. If anything, aim to diversify your income sources, so that if you lose any single one, you've still got the others to fall back on with breathing room to explore alternates.

@Incognito

I'm cought in a catch 22. Can you please help me out? It goes like this: If I dont care about a women, I just keep her as just a plate. All good.

But If I develop feelings for a woman, because she is very good to me, I enter a serious relationship with her.

But as soon as she sees that I cought feelings, she gets colder and the relationship goes to shit.

So how am I even supposed to be in a serious relationship with someone I have feelings for? Or am I just doomed to spin plates forever?

If it's a problem for you to not have feelings for a girl, then go ahead and have feelings for them. You don't need our permission and we're in no position to stop you. The challenge is in learning to moderate how often you express those feelings as emotional men are seen as mentally weak, and weak men kill female desire for them.

Study the book. Fear of failure is the only thing holding you back, but don't forget that failure is as much apart of the learning process as success. You can do it.

@SSBPikkon

Banged a chick I mentioned on here

We met 2 dates or 1 after, I noticed she was still reserved, but she let me do all kinds of things.

I went all in thinking I'll be a step away from sex. It turns out she wanted to sleep with me so we did. She isn't all that experienced but it's better that way honestly.

We're still in contact. She didn't ask for a relationship nor does she show any signs of some real bonding. She still openly talks to other dudes, she "doesn't flirt with them, only talk" - that's what every girl uses as a shield to defend themselves to not be viewed as sluts.

Ofc I'm not going to ask for any type of deeper connection and she doesn't show any signs of improvement in that direction.

We can be fuck buddies at best I think. I'll game others while maybe sleep with her sometimes.

After all I won, I got the highest level of intimacy, it's her turn now to redeem herself to try to pull me into a real "relationship", if she doesn't she's a standard hoe, but hey, she'll never acknowledge that, but that's her problem and generally female nature.

I have some other options which I could bang, but I try to focus more on myself (gym, money, etc.)

I won't ask for any type of help, my buddy which turns almost any woman he encounters into relationship said I should do the same with her, but I know that 1. I'll seem as a weak man trying to push a relationship, 2. I have some standards to that - we're not compatible enough and she's not affectionate enough and I don't want to entertain someone who doesn't deserve it and isn't really hooked to me and 3. what's the point of it since she can at this point call anyone to fuck.

She's for the streets 100%. Do y'all think I should try to keep her around and enter relationship, but honestly I don't think that's a good idea.

You don't need our permission with whatever you do next, but it doesn't read like you enjoyed the time you spent with her, so why bother? Study the book and keep engaging in whatever approaches that enable you the most consistent returns to find someone you'd rather spend time with.

@vaker0

GF expects me to always drive her from work

We are both 25. Recently her dad helped me with buying a car as I don't know anything about them and he had his fair share of cars in life. I work 3 days from home and 2 days on site. She is working at the restaurant as waitress (she starts uni soon but only 2 times a month on the weekends). I work 7 30 to 15 30 and she is working 11 00 to 21 or 22, not every day because mixed schedule. We are currently arguing wheter i should always drive her from work to house (we live together) but I dont feel like its reasonable. I told her that she has a bus and it would be cheaper, she told me that she doesn't like taking buses when its dark because its sketchy at night. So I told her I can drive her from work but not everyday and she got angry saying its weird to her and all her friends from work have boyfriends that drive them, that her dad helped me buy a car and I should want my girlfriend to be safe. I feel it's either I drive her always or we cant come to compromise.

I honestly doesn't know if Im in the wrong here, her arguments seem kinda valid? But at the same time im not her chauffeur, she is a grown adult and can take the fucking bus, its not like im not exhausted after work.

My answer to this is I should stick to my boundary and not drive her and see what happens but this doesn't seem fair somehow, am I gaslighted here?

Edit: I feel like I should add that she cooks clean I buy grocieres, we try to split expenses but I still provide more. She has 6 min to bus station from work and then she has to wait 10 to 20 minutes for bus, after that she has 3 min from bus station to home. Driving her takes 30 to 40 min total.

Reads like you've gotten yourself into a bit of a pickle there. Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.