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@Bozza Since this post Anthropic has made Fable public , got banned by US Govt. and now is available again. GPT5.6 with the same capabilities is also going to available soon , even still Fable is vastly useless for cybersecurity because of their insane guard rails
@Bozza already old pod complementary
aisle.com/blog/ai-cybersecurity-after-mythos-the-jagged-frontier
Evidence that AI is spying on us. This poll came up in the YouTube feed: QUESTION OF THE DAYDo you think AI will have a positive or negative effect on humanity? Yes No
@SwarmShawarma Training models needs insane amounts of computing power, we're talking datacentres and gigawatts of power/compute. Nobody like me or you is doing that.
But once the model is "made" and it's essentially just a text file matrix of weights, you can use it.
The latest models probably need about 24GB of GPU VRAM - so we're talking high end GPUS $1.5k+ For the good stuff, that is (agentic AI).
But some of the smaller models can run on lower hardware (some models can run on phones)
@SwarmShawarma Learning models don't exist yet - not like the human brain anyway.
They "learn" (or get trained) and then they're set in stone.
There's a lot of academic researching going into how the human brain can learn "on the spot" but no-one has replicated it yet.
I give it < 5 years.
benefit of the Chinese state government
I can't argue that or that China could have spyware etc, but since AI-USA was ahead in the race and invested billions into it awaiting return, crashing USAI bubble, seems like a valid goal.
I can't find myself trusting a Chinese model on my laptop they are state run everything and everything China puts out is for the benefit of the Chinese state government
@Bozza it is I have underpowerd devices since if one doesn't game one doesn't really need anything extraordinary. From what I read elsewhere you say that proper models need beefy setup.
Is it crawling www and needs a lot of power or can it learn only on laptop (books, aw3, graphics, mobi, PDF, avi)and then could be used as a cataloguer for a PC?
@Bozza I gotta look up how to do this.
I have some laptops with good gaming cards (I think Nvidia 4090) is that good enough?
I haven't tried local hosting a model yet
But when it comes to AI, the Chinese are leaving the US in the dust.
Skynet starts in China, then.

