@Vermillion-Rx I've been loudly condemning terrorism and use of human shields among other shitty and inhumane tactics for years, here and elsewhere.

People mostly ignored it, till the Israelis started getting their same tactics done back to them at large scale. Then most people took the Israelis side when they cried victim.

I don't condemn "terrorists" one bit for dishing back the treatment that has been unjustly heaped on them for years and years while the world had HD video of it available, but not only ignored this but lavished money, weapons, and cover on the abusers.

What I condemn are those who express outrage from places of comfort, wealth, and safety, while ignoring life made so terrible for so long that risking death to push back against the oppressors becomes one of the best options.

Reread the definition of DARVO, please.

@Lionsmane8

"Everyone I don't like is a leftist"

I don't dislike you. Also, as far as I want to define myself politically, I'm pretty much a social democrat ("leftist").

I'm "woke" though. I don't subscribe to victimhood narratives as a healthy way for any culture to define itself. Take that piece of text that you posted there; That's essentially a victim puke.

And as far as I've got a problem with muslims, or arabs, or black people, or whichever "protected minority", it's that victimhood mentality. I don't subscribe to it. I think it's unhealthy on either a collective, or an individual level.

I think sometimes you guys should consider if perhaps there are reasons why Western culture has consistently outcompeted you throughout modernity. And sometimes I think you should be willing to learn from that, rather than always performing that "someone did something to us, and we are victims" schtick. It's old, and it's counter productive.

(And yes, I'm aware western powers, and all other powers, including yours, have done, and still do, some evil shit.)

@Vermillion-Rx It's very analogous to the way mainstream culture defaults to gynocentric assumptions and conclusions in SMP matters, and how easy it is to follow that well trodden pathway oneself. To do otherwise is so shocking and antithetical to mainstream norms, that doing so requires a transformative mental journey we call taking the red pill.

The same is true for automatic and unquestioning support for Israel. I see you not "hardlining or shilling " for Israel, but stuck in a mainstream perspective rut from inside of which you can't see the bias your perspective gets influenced by.

Concrete outcomes of this bias, accepting the position that actions taken by Arabs that strike at Israel make terrorism, while the exact same acts committed by Israel against Arabs and Persians are righteous self defense. Justice and accurate understanding of events requires digging into motivations and root causes. This requires personal effort and more significantly, personal moral judgment. Most people aren't willing or able to do this work, yet that doesn't stop them from accepting the mainstream perspective with all the righteous fury that could get justified by full understanding of the issues they posture about.