Got over the hurdle of drinking and just started doing it. I had a beer (tasted like rat piss) but it definitely helped get me out of my head. I befriended a guy ordering next to me and we stayed together the night pretty much.

We had our eyes on a pair of girls so I told him we should approach them somehow since they didn’t really know what they were doing on the dance floor either. This motherfucker had 2 shots and 4 beers but was still it scared to approach them so he said he would follow my lead so I said sure. So we started dancing towards them.

My approach was kinda dumb but I basically told her one of them that her dancing was kinda ass but mines was bad too so it’s ok. Then we just danced apart. I noticed she kept looking over at me after so not sure but I dipped a while after that. I still had a lot of fun though even though I had no idea how to dance and looked like a flailing retard for most of it. I feel like if I do this a couple more times I’ll get more confident.

@aym4ne

Found her secretly chasing richer guys - should I keep her around for sex or cut her off?

Been seeing this girl casually for a while now. Sex is fire, energy is good when we're together, but recently I found her Threads account (she assumed I didn't have one). She's out there posting thirst traps, flirting with bikers, and clearly chasing guys who look richer or more flashy.

I haven't confronted her. She has no idea I saw any of it.

I never planned anything serious with her - no long-term intentions, just casual. But now I'm wondering:

Should I keep her around strictly for sex and detach emotionally, or just cut her off and move on?

Personally, I'm more inclined toward keeping her around for casual sex, as it'd require lots of energy to find someone else, since I'm not interested in building a long lasting relationship anyway, but a part of me feels disrespected.

How would you handle this? Looking for straight takes.

There's no take to really have on this as it's a non-issue. You're not her husband and she's not your wife. The only thing that's changed since you two started banging is that you've confirmed she's pursuing other guys which means she lacks the traits indicative of loyalty.

Which is just as well, as you weren't looking for a chaste virgin to take as a wife and she wasn't looking for her prince charming to sweep her off her feet. If you enjoy the lay and she's otherwise pleasant company, add her to an inventory of plates, and bang away. However, if you're humoring exclusivity of any kind, you should definitely look elsewhere.

To aid you in that, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his #book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@gargantuanchallenger

Broke frame, girl lost interest, how to recover?

Hey guys. I fumbled a woman so hard and this has kept me wondering how to win her back. I don't need to do this, of course, but I want to try to do it to see what happens.

She is the kind of woman that is independent, has lots of friends and constantly hangs out with them, gives the impression that she doesn't chase, and defintely likes men who are secure about themselves, not clingy or insecure men. I have noticed she also does a ton of shit tests, questioning things I say, for example, to see if I own up to my ideas or if I try to justify them with desperation, if I go into discussions I didnt even wanna go into in the first place.

I started our interactions with a great frame, being secure, independent, not giving too much information, not being needy in any way. We went out on some dates, she slept at my place 3 or 4 times, but I began to like her too much and began to act desperately. As she was NOT head over heels for me after maybe 4 weeks going out, I started to become fearful I would lose her. I stopped being that guy that is self confident, doesn't fear rejection, does not chase, has other choices, exactly the thing that this woman seem to like. I started to act needy, she noticed it, i folded when she questioned me with shit tests. I made the mistake of trying to have a conversation with her on where we were standing, and then her interest started to fade - I felt I sounded insecure when asking about her intentions, and mentioned I was more interested in her than in any other girls. Big mistake. Last time she slept at my place 2 weeks ago was terrible, she just went to sleep after some 2 hours together and she left first thing in the morning. Now shes been ghosting me since then.

I want to fix all of this, but i dont know how. if she already has this vision that I am weak and insecure, don't have other choices (I actually do, but made the mistake of telling her she was the only girl I was really interested in) it should be very hard to change it. But i want to give it a shot. I am thinking of letting 1 or 2 weeks go by and then just send her a text saying something like "Hey, i know i was off last time we met, had my mind elsewhere. lets fix that? X place, 8pm, this Saturday, you in?" Honestly I cant think of anything else that would sound better. What do you guys think? If this doesnt work then its obviously over and Im just going to move on.

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I've no clue what she's done for you to hold her in such high regard, but you should definitely consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@HighBodyCountVirgin

How does TRP explain the zesty rizz/performative male method?

There's probably a better label for it, but basically when a man leans their personality more towards femininity and flamboyance, almost gay, but they're able to use this to gain trust with women and get really close to them. Think Pedro Pascal, who obsesses over women's nails and shows emotional vulnerability, yet is able to get really touchy feely with women and even grope another man's pregnant celebrity wife. He says he's not gay and, women are obsessed with him, sexually.

From what I've seen it's very effective. Why is this? Because at first glance it seems to go against what we understand about what women are attracted to.

Does it go against TRP principles? Maybe? Maybe not? I mean I'd guess you can still maintain frame, because frame is not necessarily about masculinity or dominance, but rather maintaining integrity with your values, so if you are a zesty mofo, then you need to maintain frame of doing that even when you get called out as just acting.

Reads like you're describing pickup artists than TRP. Study the book instead, it'll provide you a better foundation to branch out from in RP aware circles.

@NotRokkit

How do I delete my account

Before you delete your account, consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@AestheticMan

How to integrate looks into red pill frame?

Hello. Based on the feedbacks, I am quite good looking, but I have found an issue stuffing this trait of mine into the TRP framework. On the other forum I read that following the classic TRP premise of "just be aggressive bro" is mainly for ugly, short guys, and doesn't work with handsome guys. I read that handsome guys need to be humble and kind for women to not be scared of them. And I instinctively found this out a lot of time ago, the best results are when I completely forget about these autistic RP stuff. And I'm just being myself.

The main question is: "Is TRP mainly for uglies / over 50 bald guys ?" ? Because if I even apply TRP, I 100% of the cases come off ass way to strong. This is mainly talking about 18-24 year old girls. The MILF's / high BC women do require some TRP behaviour, but I am not after those excessively used up sluts. Í conclude that being more peaceful is good for younger girls. But what is your inputs? Thank s in advance!

Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.

@Red_dead

Can I recover?

I’ll went on three dates with this girl and didnt have sex due to bad logistics.

After 2nd and 3rd date she texted me asking me to go out again.

I just moved back home and have a sick family member and my siblings are home as well for the surgery. I was honestly planning to take a break from dating after fucking 7girls in 3 months but ended up actually having a lot in common with this girl. She paid for our 2nd date too.

I invited her over after second date a couple days later but she had tickets for an event and she later told me should would have came if she had known i meant earlier.

Anyways 3rd date my dad had surgery the next day but I went on the date because it ended up getting postponed and knew id be busy later. Date ended all good we kissed a little like after every date but I could tell she wanted me to escalate and tbh I had too many things on my mind and logistics were shit.

Texted her next day no response. She is away at a family thing all wknd but still its been 2 days so im figuring im cooked. Any way to recover? I think im done with dating for a bit after this to focus on other things so I dont really want to pursue another girl.

You banged your fill, awesome. Study the book. You've got your life, she's got hers, so pace out the outreach, and make time to approach other females if you feel so inclined. I hope your dad has a smooth recovery from his surgery and that your other sick relatives get well too.