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@First-light Israel runs tightly refined DARVO game at the Nation-State level. Sad that virtually all of the older/stronger/"better" nation states of the world default to playing right into it.
I mean, Mossad and AIPAC successfully embedded their tentacles into the highest levels of US Government, strongly compelling or incentivizing pro-Israel choices at every important step. But, average citizens are free to think and do as they please, yet so many of them default to going all-in on the Hasbara account of events without ever spending a moment's thought on the merits of alternative explanations and pathways.
All they had to do was release the hostages
For a community whose FOUNDATIONAL principles include seeing through manipulative cultural narratives, groupthink, avoidance of "getting cucked", etc,
It always amazes me to see how quickly the whole lot of it gets chucked right out the window when it comes to Israel, and also MAGA.
@Vermillion-Rx It was a bad calculation but sometimes I think people just have to do such things. They were being gravely mistreated by Israel and slowly ethnically cleansed. Sometimes when you are in a hard spot you fight and see if it can change anything or you perish slowly anyway.
It must be terrible raising kids in that tiny patch of land knowing you are a second class human and not allowed out. Aside from the aid industry there is very little industry or prospects. What are you living for -to be contained and slowly pushed out while the rest of the world is living in a golden age of freedom (probably an ending golden age but still its better than historical averages).
I think they were not calculating on loss of life but on making a statement that they hoped the world heard and that their suffering when punished might attract some sympathy.
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Super disturbing - thoughts?
- Israel sleeper cell in US, Adam Sheafe, a Zionist with Hebrew tattoos around his neck, confessed to the gruesome murder and crucifixion of 76-year-old Pastor Bill Schonemann in April 2025 in Arizona — the first of 14 pastors he planned to kill because he thinks that will save Israel from other Gods and will help their own "God" (satan) agenda. He thinks he is a saint by doing this and helps their own "God" (satan).*
Can you explain this coincidence?
Last year, I met a girl who was apparently head over heels for me. We interacted a bit over the phone, set up a date, and then she flaked—acting like nothing happened. After a while, she mentioned that everything about me was "great", except she saw me as a "player." So, we stopped talking.
A month or two later later, I met another girl, same age (21) —a hairdresser. She was obsessed with me, showing it in the most obvious yet childish ways (insecure, I guess). We went on one date, and afterward, she became super clingy—yet whenever I tried to set up another date, she’d dodge making plans while still hovering around my usual spot, trying to weave herself into my daily life (we both had friends at a café I used to frequent, and the girls working there would bring me the gossip about her. she used to work at the hairdresser next door).
I got tired of her games, told her I wasn’t tolerating that BS, and cut her off, I have to admit, harshly. She almost cried. At the same time, I started dating another girl right in front of her (you could see her stomach drop when she saw us together). She changed her work location and when I asked about her sudden disappearance, the gossip was that it was to avoid me.
Now, almost a year later, I’ve run into both of them—twice—and they’re hanging out together! They’ve apparently become friends. Before this, they had zero connection—didn’t know each other, came from totally different worlds, didn’t go to the same school etc.. They just have similar SMV, the same age, and at the same level of mental maturity (not the sharpest tools in the shed).
I’m baffled. How does this even happen?
If two chicks have the same taste in men, why would it be implausible that they'd have more in common with each other, or have difficulties becoming friends?
Read MoreIt's funny how (western) women always find a way to make it about them.
You are a racist, disingenuous, evil and the lord of all idiots.
edition.cnn.com/2024/09/04/middleeast/netanyahu-derailed-hostage-deal-in-july-intl/index.html
www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-854326
www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-854326
www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-854326
jacobin.com/2024/09/netanyahu-israel-hamas-hostage-deal
www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-810551g
www.972mag.com/israeli-hostage-families-ceasefire-netanyahu/
Read More200 ish Israelis or whatever collateral they were willing to take?
Seems like an extraordinarily horrendous calculation. Like astronomically bad. Especially since they've lost virtually all the PR by now and Gaza has fallen out of the news cycle.
They relied on white western liberals to bail them out and it didn't work. At all.
Seems like an absolute catastrophic loss of local life because Hamas was unwilling to release a couple hundred hostage. And they are still too stubborn too even after their puppet masters got wrecked and lost almost everything.
Iran, Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas absolutely destroyed because of that dude who went out throwing a stick at a drone couldn't release hostages
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