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@Typo-MAGAshiv I was just thinking about this scenario recently in regards to the Strong and Independent heightest who was griping that out of the 1% of men available that she's interested and a fraction of that which will talk to her, she insists they pay for meal dates with her.
it's an interesting analogy because women REALLY are into restaurants for that 1st date experience. Some corporate nuns I knew in the 90's would go celibate and refuse to screw chad without that sit-down meal.
Now consider: They like to say they're "old fashioned" but isn't "old fashioned" about, er, a woman cooking for THE MAN?
If they REALLY want old fashioned, shouldn't they be Martha Stewart types hand baking pies, cakes, and other goodies for hours a day when they get home from their slave-wage job?
I blame "gentlemen prefer blondes" which normalized and even glamorized entitlement gold diggers.
She's so cute and funny!
So now these women are addicted to that feeling of importance. To be a Queen with people serving them. The serf peasant who brings her food on a nice plate.
Chop chop!
And the sex slave who pays for things because she has a magic V.
I have a meal whore post coming up for weekend content.
Read MoreThe Aging Career Women Copium of a Male Biological Clock
When I was reading up on an aging woman’s argument saying that men’s fertility doesn’t improve with age either (see image) I knew it was a dishonest comparison so I ran some numbers. Young women should be educated on this because the inspins may try to drag them down into the crab bucket.
First, let’s review women’s numbers: The most significant would be Down’s syndrome.
Google: “birth defects by age of mother”
The risk of birth defects increases with the age of the mother, especially chromosomal disorders like Down syndrome:
Age Chance of Down syndrome 20 1 in 1,480 25 1 in 1,250 30 1 in 940 35 1 in 353 40 1 in 85
Total increase in risk between age 30 to 40, 11X or 1000%
OK, what about us men? archive.ph/jb5Wo Men’s Health: How Old is Too Old to Be a Dad? “In a Baylor College of Medicine review, the researchers crunched the numbers on 86 congenital problems linked to older fatherhood.” These figures are scary, but one wonders if they fail to control for the age of the mother. It’s like saying that the passengers of drunk drivers are as likely to die in car crashes if they are drinking as well.
“What’s more, autism rates rise from 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 174 for kids whose dads had them after age 40.”
I tried to google that study but couldn’t find it. One wonders though how many fathers over 40 are having children with 20 year old women for the study to be relevant. Also, how many women over 40 are having children with 20 year old men? On average, the father will be older than the mother statistically about 5 years or so hence these figures appear to predict such ratios.
The Men’s Health article further refers to a Nature article: The average 30-year-old dad passes on about 55 mutations to his offspring, according to a paper published in Nature. But each year you age increases that number by two, the authors found. “That means every 16.5 years, the number of mutations you pass along will double. And in 50 years—say, at age 80 instead of 30—you’d bequeath eight times as many DNA mutations.”
So let’s compare apples to apples and women’s chromosome mutations: advancedfertility.com/patient-education/causes-of-infertility/female-age-eggs/17% of the eggs studied from women 20-25 years old were found to have an abnormal spindle appearance and at least one chromosome displaced from proper alignment. 79% of the eggs studied from women 40-45 years old were found to have an abnormal spindle appearance and at least one chromosome displaced from proper alignment. 79%/17%=4.6X
So going from raw genetic numbers alone, that means a man’s genetic drift is no more than 1/2 as much as a woman’s and also not exponential.
Going on genetic drift alone, an 80 year old man is about as risky as a 42 year old woman.
Finally, the bad news for the aging career women is that even if they were correct, and men had as bad a biological clock as women, this would undermine their own chances in the dating market since the men they desire, the top 5 percenters, would have even more of an incentive to seek out younger, less “successful”, women in order to maximize his already dwindling chances of siring a healthy child. Why compound a risk by doubling it with a similar aged spouse ESPECIALLY if you have choices?
Granted, these women do have a way out such as marrying a broke but healthy 20 year old man with fresh sperm and paying his bills OR buying sperm and accepting 100% financial responsibility for the children.
All this said, I have a dear friend whose first child had autism while the 2nd turned out normal (with the caveat that the 2nd child became a crazed blue haired feminist, but that was due to a nasty divorce and the mother getting even with him via parent alienation).
I wonder if that scenario occurred because he knocked up a young barfly who smoked and drank regularly before conception, although she knocked it off after she got pregnant.
Read MoreNew at the WATGMA forum:
A classic story that is worth re-reading occasionally: Drive Thru Boyfriend by Solomon II
made up an ominous-sounding phrase to equate normal, healthy, masculine reserve with sociopathy.
Kind of like "ToXiC mAsCuLiNiTy"
You explained my hatred for that expression better than I've been able to.
And this surprises you… Why?
Seriously, though, the real problem is that some daffy bint made up an ominous-sounding phrase to equate normal, healthy, masculine reserve with sociopathy.
I’ll even concede that using the term “Emotionally unavailable” for men makes about as much sense as using the term, “cis” to describe straight people. Do we really need a linguistic modifier for normal masculine behavior?
You explained my hatred for that expression better than I've been able to.
First of all, psychology itself is a steaming pile of diarrhea, and evo psych is just another turd in the same toilet.
Eh, most of it is. Some of it's surprisingly useful, including evo psych.
First of all, psychology itself is a steaming pile of diarrhea, and evo psych is just another turd in the same toilet. Future historians will look at psychology the way we look at alchemy and marvel that a culture that put men on the Moon and sent a probe past the edge of the solar system considered it to be a legitimate science.
That said, I’m not quite as hostile to the term, “Emotionally unavailable” as @Typo-MAGAshiv is. It’s certainly not a term I would have come up with, but I understand what it means, and that meaning reflects how some people are.
I’ll even concede that using the term “Emotionally unavailable” for men makes about as much sense as using the term, “cis” to describe straight people. Do we really need a linguistic modifier for normal masculine behavior? Sadly: I think we might. Why? The reason I don’t reject its use is that sixty years of feminism has created a generation of men who are so beat-down and brainwashed that normal masculinity is the exception rather than the rule.
(The “Attachment style” language is on much shakier ground.)
I won’t flog the subject any more (barrels of ink have already been spilled), except to reiterate that society punishes men who don’t keep our emotions on a very short leash. For all its promises of freeing everybody, feminism hasn’t lessened the contempt women feel for men who freely express their emotions.
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attachment style
Blue pilled terms and total garbage.
Anyway, your theory is nothing new. It's been discussed and beaten to death all over the manosphere.
Here is one place I discussed it, with links to previous discussions. My particular case was grief at the loss of my father. This is hardly unique.
Rollo discusses it in his podcasts occasionally, as does Rian Stone.
The Married Red Pill subreddit is chock-full of men discussing this among other things.
I'm keeping this short for now, as my coffee hasn't kicked in yet, and I need to get ready for work.
However, I'll link you to a few other places where this is discussed:
www.trp.red/feed/status/154527
www.trp.red/feed/status/154563
www.trp.red/feed/status/159660
Just use the search features at this and other forums. Lots of men with LTR experience discuss this.
Read MoreCan someone validate my theory on why women prefer emotionally unavailable men or chime in with their thoughts?
From an evolutionary psychology perspective, there is an explanation behind why men choose to be emotionally unavailable & hide emotions. Women are attracted only to emotional strengths of men. So when men showcase emotions and show any sign of weakness, women are turned off and thus they are unable to procreate & pass those genes onto the next generation. An adaptive mechanism employed by men is to become emotionally unavailable, which is actually shown to drive women crazy in lust for a man. It is well known that to repair an insecure attachment style takes several years of therapy, if not a whole life's worth of work (which may not even work out). Women believe they can repair a "broken" man and are attracted to the chaotic environment, the submissive relationship, and the lottery-style intermittent reinforcement of intimacy given by emotionally unavailable men. Thus, men with insecurity and apparent "emotional weaknesses" have a method of still getting women (indeed perhaps more women than the normal man), and at the same time a method of healing themselves through the therapeutic benefits of regular sex with women and allowing a woman to try to "heal" them.
Read MoreNot nearly enough to make up for a bunch of other stuff, though
Haha, I think every man here can relate to that