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Second time
I didn't know it was the second time (or didn't happen to catch that part)
First time is a commitment Gambit usually, but second is game playing. Usually some ego involved on their end but not necessarily not commitment trapping.
I personally wouldn't bother then. You could tell her it's only ever going to be casual and then just let her reach out to you for every hangout going forward and put no effort in and ghost of she fails to put out on something she initiated
I just have a toxic mindset tbh.
I feel ~toxic~ brutal honesty is a good default setting to be on. Especially with yourself.
When it's a girl wanting a little song and dance, I enjoy providing a little romance but if it's like you said, a complete shut down of game. I'm out. I'll happily play but I'm not here to be played for a sucker.
There's a distinct lack of passion as you pointed out that separates the two.
There is a plate on the gym I go.
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I just don't know what to talk to her about but still I want to fuck her regardless.
A plate is a girl you’re already fucking that isn’t exclusive. If you’ve only asked her for the wi-fi password, she isn’t a plate.
Talk to her about how sweaty your taint gets after doing some squats, that’ll appeal to her desire to have your nuts squatted into her mouth when she does become a plate.
There is a plate on the gym I go. She is mid, not ugly but still not attractive either. She is an alt bitch with tattoo on her calves and red hair and goth-like. I just don't know what to talk to her about but still I want to fuck her regardless. I spoke to her once and that's for the gym Wifi password that she didn't know.
@Bozza I have more toxic mindset than you.. in fact corrosive.
@Kloi I get where you're coming from and maybe I just have a toxic mindset tbh.
I've got to the point now where, I hit on the first date probably 90% of the time. So when I come across someone who doesn't wanna hit, I just assume disinterest and move on.
Even when you hit LMR, the passion is there and you know they're "fuck yes" even if they're trying to hold out.
But when it's just shut downs and game playing you think either they're not interested enough, or can I really be bothered with it.
As Rollo says, it's rarely worth the wait. Easier to just find someone else who's "fuck yes" about you.