@Stigma that shit going on in LA wasn't a protest, but violent interference in ICE performing its function. The military response was necessary, and these invaders need to be removed (whether through deportations or just getting shot).

I'm all for the right to protest, and the best illustration in recent memory of protestors being done wrong by our government was the J6ers, who were portrayed as violent insurrectionists so effectively that a lot of people on "our" side (including me) had fallen for it until more evidence came out. Like Norm Mcdonald said: I've never seen rioters respect velvet rope barriers before!

@adam-l You have to remember the powers that be are always pushing for war- every single part of the deep state. You'll notice he still keeps putting out diplomatic messages "just sign the agreement bro" and it is every other mechanism inching closer to WW3 despite it. They're trying to force his hand. He is the first president of my lifetime that wasn't gung-ho pushing the propaganda himself.

And yeah, I think Israel is trying to goad us into it.

@redpillschool I don't follow the US internals too much. I'm mostly referring to what happens worldwide. Trump campaigned that "he'd end the war in a week" and instead he is about to declare WWIII any moment...

@adam-l I mean that's why we have the "dark winter" tribe. That said, I love both you and mento but if you think the libs gets to riot summer-of-love style (including declaring autonomous zones) without some pushback from the law and order men, well, you're drinking some koolaid.

Many blue states are literally being invaded by foreign nationals, waving other countries' flags. I say the national guard isn't enough if you come here to be violent.

I'm sick of apologizing for wanting my country to remain mine.

@Typo-MAGAshiv And also attacking federal agents and facilities and local police being instructed not to do anything about it. Of course the Guard needed to be activated.

@MentORPHEUS

Don't you love a tiny bit of techno-fascism masquerading as democracy and national security?

@Stigma thing is, what MSNBCorpheus is whinging about is a response to foreign nationals destroying federal property and waving foreign flags while refusing to leave our country

Not the same thing in this case

@MentORPHEUS your state is being invaded and taken over by foreign nationals, and your state's leadership is in on it

@MentORPHEUS I remember watching the martial law response to the Boston bombing, with all kinds of crazy gear patrolling the streets and keeping people inside. False flag or not, the immediate iron fist and suspicion put against everyone… that was a formative moment in turning me against the state, knowing they would just roll in and squash the population.

Now it’s many years later and I’m beyond jaded, but watching again the response by the state with the obvious threat of a gun against citizens heads, refreshes my hatred.

I know the US isn’t my state, but they’re all the same and I hate them equally, mine and yours.