@tchower yeah, I get what you mean.
But to put it bluntly, you're worrying about how an autist would interpret 'always assume attraction'.
You're on the right track. Don't use Red Pill Reddit mentalities to a point that they fuck you over.
It is surprising, though, how many young kids will do that. I saw a guy on asktrp once write about he so embodied 'I don't give a fuck' that he didn't give a fuck if he failed in school, or was broke and some other stupid shit.
Everyone was like 'dude, you SHOULD give a fuck about that'.
'Always assume attraction', 'IDGAF', 'Outcome independence' - they can all go bad if handle by a sperg
@tchower Also, you can pretty much establish it's true attraction if a girl is very compliant (Especially sexually)...without getting anything other than your time and attention in return.
If you're truly 'alpha fucks'...she will be compliant, fuck, cause little issue...and you'll find you're not really giving anything other than some time and attention in return.
Hopefully I've made sense. My brain is always kinda fried after work.
@tchower I'm not one hundred percent sure of the exact point you're making.
Are you saying that 'assume attraction' could allow a guy to not spot when he is being manipulated for something? So, like she's manipulating and he's naively just thinking 'yeah...assume attraction'? So he mistakes manipulation for real attraction?
If so, that's where you guide shit. Compliance tests. You can only tell if a girl is genuinely interested in doing what you want by GIVING HER STUFF TO DO.
So always give compliance tests, which will then allow you to gauge her compliance.
So it's sort of a process. It begins with 'assume attraction' when you're first meeting a girl or approaching. Then it turns into compliance tests.
Even if she is trying to manipulate, compliance tests sort that out. If she's not compliant with what I ask her to do - goodbye.
Basically you have to control your bitches. If you end up manipulated for something it's because you allowed it at some point.Read More
Men get attracted to hot girls. If she falls in the spectrum of the right stats, and ratios, we will get attracted. It is not an option for us. We just do. Whether we act on it or not is our own choice. Similarly, when a guy demonstrates or mimics convincingly that he is a man with high survival and replication values, women have no other option except get attracted. High value attributes such as pre-selection, leader of men, not a pushover, has societal status.
Mystery put it absolutely right in his book, Mystery Method that "Attraction is not a choice."
Maybe you're over-thinking it?
I always thought 'assume attraction' was just a call to sack up and approach a girl. I also think of a lot of 'Reddit Red Pill 101' advice as ways to mimic a high-value guy.
A high-value guy is pretty always going to lean toward thinking 'yeah, most of these bitches will be attracted to me. It's not really a question'.
Rather than 'Oh man, what do I or say to get that hot girl to like me'.
Fuck it. Assume attraction. It's what the high value guys are doing.
'This method is not great for getting laid.
It's great for enjoying your time.'
Wow. Well said. This made me realise a lot of what I do now is probably less effective in getting laid, but much more oriented to enjoying my time.
Absolutely, man. It's really difficult to find motherfuckers you really trust. When you can, it's a very rare feeling you just know.
It takes a lot of character to be someone a brother can trust.
I had a best mate from 21. We went to Sydney together, and ended up in some really bad shit. Drugs and drug addiction, lots of crime. It all went really, really bad. I owed him money and we didn't talk for five years because everything fell to shit.
I always knew I could trust him, though. There was a 'feeling'. He contacted me out of the blue about 6 months ago.
He's moved to Melbourne and become a pretty successful personal trainer. I'm now working in addiction treatment.
Even after all the shit and time not in contact, we're still down. Like, there is nothing but respect, friendship and trust. When it's a true brother, that shit runs deep.
I still know I can trust him more than pretty much anyone else I've met in the last five years. I make a concerted effort to stay in touch, because most motherfuckers will leave ya hanging at some point.Read More