@deeplydisturbed Its interesting how hard they use the blue pill to push for the things that red pill us the most. I am still being given the cold shoulder for not marrying my lady or buying her a car since the other one came round to crow. The unspoken "fact" is that I have failed to be man enough to provide as well as the guy who is cruising to potential ruin.

I was also just reminded of my unkind cynicism 10 minutes from now. I am "too prejudiced" by assuming that a third time spin of the marriage wheel might just happen to not be lucky for this lady.

Instead of them saying "How can we women act to convince men the red pill is wrong, we just get told we are failing by not being blue pill enough. This just confirms what we already knew -that the blue pill is not in our interests and it can be used against us.

Been lately in UK's sti clinic and it paired me me a very experienced woman.

What a stories she had.

• she had a visit from the youngest boy yet to visit, 11yo and needed condoms, apparently 12-13yo youngsters are not as uncommon

• health sector workers do not get paid for full vaccination against STIs, but state pays for full vaccination for gay men

• get men get any vaccination available and preventative meds, so if gay comes after a gang bang, they will get full set of meds just in case, anti HIV amongst; if they already have HIV that extends to anti: gonorrea, chlamydia...

• hetero (and lesbian) can only get tested for basics: gohnorea, chlam, syph, HIV, GM, general microorganisms marker

• hetero can't get free jab for hepatitis, herpes, HPV ("we don't give those to men"), unless gay or a child

• if one get tested privately and discovers having other STI, public sex health will not pay for it

• she reported that youngsters asked why they sleep around rather than having a partner, they say they just text if they want sex (Chad alert not understood)

@First-light

I think marriage is a shot to nothing for women. They don't have to worry too much if it fails or not. If they fall in love, they are not thinking about failure but they are still happy to know they are "protected" by the union they will be entering.

Naw. Normal women (as in, without personality disorders) are very much anxious about the prospect of divorce. This is especially true if married to a guy they're at least somewhat into.

This is partly because women seriously believe divorce victimises them, because that's what their minds gravitate towards; victimhood. So most normal women actually go around thinking it's "so hard" to be a divorced woman, and that divorce is "so unfair" to women.

But it's also partly because divorce does in deed suck for people who actually care about their kids, and who had hopes and dreams of a functional family unit - as most normal people probably have, or at least had at some point.

The woman in your story clearly is of a consciously predatory kind. So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if she knew the ins and outs of how divorces in certain parts of the world actually tend to pan out - and how to take full advantage of it. But most women aren't consciously predatory like that, where they're fully aware they won't be victimised by divorce.

Also, it should be said, that guy is a fucking idiot; Leading with his wallet, throwing cash and gifts around, setting himself up for the beta provider role 100%. So I guess the answer, if one wants to avoid these walking red flags, is don't be an fucking idiot.

Predatory women will always separate idiots from their hard-earned money. It's not even a parasitic relationship, it's symbiotic. The idiot gets to be an idiot.